Thread:Support/PLURAL in macedonian

I need explanation, why $1 NaN промениs in mk.wikipedia do not alter between singular and plural form. --brest 22:40, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Or, do we really need PLURAL here?--brest 22:44, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Please provide: (1) steps to reproduce (2) observed result (3) expected result. If you report a problem like this, other users will be able to replay to your observed results, as well as know what exactly you expect. With the current information, I can confirm nor deny you claim. Siebrand 00:14, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Changed the plural algorithm to http://unicode.org/repos/cldr-tmp/trunk/diff/supplemental/language_plural_rules.html#mk from something else. Is it correct now? (I mean here, WMF is obviously not updated yet, but I am assuming it used the same old code). – Nike 07:19, 29 October 2009 (UTC)


 * (1) Should be:
 * 1 --> промена (change)
 * 2, 3, 4, ..... --> промени (changes)


 * (2) In this moment produce this:
 * 1 --> промена (change)
 * 2, 3, 4, ... --> промена (change)


 * I think the rules here http://unicode.org/repos/cldr-tmp/trunk/diff/supplemental/language_plural_rules.html#mk are not apropriate for this situation i.e. . Rules are little bit more complex, for example depends on the gender, ordinal or cardinal number, ... If we set $1 NaN промениs i.e. in english $1 NaN changess it works good.--brest 16:23, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * If the plural rules for your language are not correct in the standard, then please get it fixed there. I see no reason so deviate from the documented standard in MediaWiki, or any other product. However, if the standard is changed, we will change the implementation in MediaWiki, too. Siebrand 10:14, 30 October 2009 (UTC)


 * May be the defined standard is not good, but also the implementation here (MediaWiki) of such defined standard is not good. As I wrote before:
 * (2) In this moment produce this:
 * 1 --> промена (change)
 * 2, 3, 4, ... --> промена (change) should be 2, 3, 4, ... --> промени (changes)
 * and very clear, it is not correct.--brest 16:26, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Shouldn't the Macedonian plural rule have 3 forms? As per the plural rules for Firefox there are separate forms for:
 * 1, 11, 21, 31, 41 etc.
 * 2, 12, 22, 32, 42 etc. and the other numbers:
 * 0, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 27, 29, 30, 33, 34 and so on

I don't know what's correct. --Michawiki 21:26, 30 October 2009 (UTC)


 * What is the problem here again? Is *1 -> first form; every else -> second form not correct? – Nike 21:49, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't know which of the rules is correct. I'm not a Macedonian. According to the Firefox plural rule for Macedonian there is a 3rd option for numbers with 2 as last digit. --Michawiki 23:08, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * This is correct, for our case, i.e. for :
 * 1, 21, 31, .... ends in 1, not 11 -> first form (промена)
 * everything else -> second form (промени)--brest 20:15, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

As I can see, here on translatewiki.net, now it works, only in the case of 11 not work. But on mk.wikipedia don't work almost in any case.--brest 20:41, 31 October 2009 (UTC)