User talk:Nike/Archive to 2008-07-18


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Võro
Terve Nike! Olen ollut viime päivinä kääntämässä ja yhtäkkiä huomasin tätä huomatustekstiä: ''Translators: Remember to ask for your changes to be committed. Smaller changes are easier to review than one big change.'' No mulla on nyt itse asiassa ensimmäinen puoli tai vähän yli puolen koko systeemin viesteistä käännetty. Mitä ajattelet, pitäisikö sun sen kanssa nyt jo jotain tehdä vai käännän ihan loppuun asti ja alkaat vasta senjälkeen sitä käännöstyötä protsessoida? Tervüisi, Sullõv (--Võrok 30. maaliskuuta 2007 kello 21.14 (UTC))
 * Ihan miten haluat. Ilmoitus on lähinnä sen takia, etteivät kääntäjät turhaudu korjauspyyntöihin. Erityisesti jos heitä on vaikea tavoittaa ja pitää selittää miksi pitää korjata. — Nike 1. huhtikuuta 2007 kello 12.02 (UTC)
 * Selvä, ole hyvä, korjaa tekemäni käänökset. Ja vielä, en löytänyt võroa kääntämisstatistiikan taulukoista, voisi se ehkkä sielläkin näkyvissä olla. --Võrok 1. huhtikuuta 2007 kello 13.30 (UTC)

1.9, 1.10
Hi Nike, I'd like to know if it is safe to edit the special:translate, since your statistics only refer to the 1.9 branch, while Localization_statistics refers to 1.10, with different numbers (for PT and PT_BR). pt:User:Waldir 5. huhtikuuta 2007 kello 01.48 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll start moving some messages from the mediawiki namespace to here, then. Waldir 8. huhtikuuta 2007 kello 21.10 (UTC)
 * I complided a list of the mediawikis to be moved on this page. I need permissions to edit the mediawikis in Betawiki, if i try to edit the pages i can only see the source code... Waldir 11. huhtikuuta 2007 kello 00.22 (UTC)

gl
Hello Nike. I am bureaucrat in the Galician Wikipedia. We have not files LanguageGl.php and MessagesGl.php. The translation in gl.wp is near to finish. I ask for translator and import privileges to use Betawiki to maintain these files. Thanks. Greetings. --Prevert 7. huhtikuuta 2007 kello 11.15 (UTC)
 * Some messages of http://gl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Allmessages are definitive (others are in revision process). It's faster import than copy/paste. Thanks. Best regards. --Prevert 7. huhtikuuta 2007 kello 13.41 (UTC)
 * Yes. --Prevert 7. huhtikuuta 2007 kello 13.52 (UTC)
 * Ok. Thanks. --Prevert 7. huhtikuuta 2007 kello 14.04 (UTC)

bat-smg
You have made dual form for Samogitian language. Now I see what I have more problems with numbers :-/ its looks like:
 * 1,21,31,...,101,121,...,1001,... vāks - singular
 * 2,22,32,...,102,122,...,1002,... vāko - dual
 * 0,10-19,20,30,...,110-119,120,...,1010-1019,... vakū - plural
 * 3-9,23-29,33-39,...,103-109,123-129,...,1003,... or everything else vākā - plural

It's iterations of number. So, is there posibility to make it nice? -- Zordsdavini 06:16, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Small mistake - 11,12,111,112,1011,1012,... - have to be the same as 13,14,15,... - it is "vākū" - plural. Thanks -- Zordsdavini 11:45, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Last small mistake (I think) - the number which ends in 0 - has form with vākū. Another forms are OK. --Zordsdavini 12:43, 2 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Dear Nike, is it the structure of numering finished. If Yes - can You give example how it have to be used. --Zordsdavini 05:36, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

sma - Åarjelsaemien gïele
Hej, kan du ändra sma - Lullisámegiella till sma - Åarjelsaemien gïele. Tack. Max sonnelid 16:38, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

New translation (Sakha language)
Hello from Siberia! I'm new in wikipedia. Want to translate in sakha (sah - Саха тыла). I have account, but can't to edit. Please, help! --Bert Jickty 29. huhtikuuta 2007 kello 01.38 (UTC)
 * Hi, Nike! I translate the wiki-interface on the Sakha (Yakut) language. I ask to give me it is right the translator.--HalanTul 24. heinäkuuta 2007 kello 10.22 (UTC)

Kab - taqbaylit
Hi, can you please change kab - ثاقبايليث into Kab - taqbaylit. thank you.Agurzil 3. huhtikuuta 2007 kello 23.30 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the quick action.Agurzil 4. huhtikuuta 2007 kello 12.25 (UTC)

Changes in LV
Hello! Haven't been here for some time, only sometimes where wandering why the changes do not appear in the interface. :) It turns out we need to point out when something is ready (which makes sense, of course).

So, there are some new translation changes ready for Latvian version - would you be so kind and submit them? I reviewed them once more and it seemed OK. Only I'm not sure about "monobook.js". Currently it says it's deprecated and I'm not sure where did the Latvian replacable version come from and is it used anywhere. If it is not, then it maybe can be skipped (or reverted)? --Knakts 18. huhtikuuta 2007 kello 19.34 (UTC)


 * Done. Monobook.js has been migrated automatically. — Nike 19. huhtikuuta 2007 kello 18.01 (UTC)

Võron käännös valmis
Terve Nike, võron käännös on nyt valmis ja olemme sen Valdiksen kanssa kielellisesti tarkistaneet. Ole hyvä, korjaa se ja senjälkeen voisit sen ottaa viralliseen käyttöön, että se toimisi ja näkyisi myös võron wikipediassa. --Võrok 20. huhtikuuta 2007 kello 16.05 (UTC)


 * Kiitos korjauksistasi, Nike! Korjasin FIXME-llä merkityn viestin, tarkistin loput parikymmentä viestiä, jotka olivat vielä kääntämättä ja tallensin ne võronkielisinä, koska ne lyhennykset ovat võroksi ihan samoja kuin englanniksi. Nyt ei enää pitäisi olla yhtään kääntämättä viestiä. Voit kaikki ottaa käyttöön, tai jos minun on vielä jotain tehtävä, niin sano, mitä. Voitko sanoa, milloin tämä võronkielinen käyttöliittymä alkaa näkyä võron wikipediassa? --Võrok 23. huhtikuuta 2007 kello 08.21 (UTC)


 * Võronkielinen käyttöliittymä toimii sekä võron wikissä että muualla, kiitos! Mutta heti huomasin joitakuita ongelmia: 1. kaikissa tarkistamani wikipedioissa (fiu-vro, et, en) (käyttäen võron käyttöliittymää) näkyy viestin "mu perräkaemisnimekiri" sijasta virheellinen viesti "&lt;my-watchlist&gt;"; 2. võron wikipediassa on aika suuri osa järjestelmäviesteistä jäänyt vanhaan muotoon (esim. etusivulla näkyy viestin "Tallitusleheküleq" sijasta "Eräliseq leheküleq", "Eräteedüse kaitsminõ" sijasta on "Privaatsus" jne). --Võrok 24. huhtikuuta 2007 kello 07.58 (UTC)


 * "My-watchlist"-ongelma on ratkaistu, kiitos! Pitääkö võron wikipedian järjestelmäviestien taulukossa vanhaan muotoon jääneet viestit laittaa uuteen muotoon käsin vai tehdään se jotenkin automaattisesti? Voitko selittää, miksi on võron wp-n järjestelmäviestien taulukossa silti niin paljon englanninkielisiä viestejä, vaikka olen tiedäkseni kääntänyt kaikki MediaWikin järjestelmäviestit? Onko se joku virhe ja korjataan pian tai jäävätkin ne englanninkielisiksi? --Võrok 25. huhtikuuta 2007 kello 08.50 (UTC)


 * Viestit, joita on muutettu paikallisesti, eivät päivity automaattisesti. Englanninkieliset viestit tulevat laajennoksista (extension). Niitä voi kääntää valitsemalla laajennoksen message class -pudotusvalikosta. — Nike 25. huhtikuuta 2007 kello 11.04 (UTC)


 * Kiitos selityksistä. Aijon joskus kääntää vain ne laajennokset, jotka ovat eniten tarvittu wikipediassa. Voitko sanoa, millaiset ne olisivat? En muita ehdi kääntää. Käänsin myös kaksi uutta järjestelmäviestiä, jotka viime päivinä olivat lisäntyneet ja olivat võroksi vielä kääntämättä ja laajennoksista käänsin File Pathin. Voit ne ottaa käyttöön. Tervüisi, --Võrok 26. huhtikuuta 2007 kello 08.16 (UTC)

Welsh translation
I have started reviewing the core messages that you kindly imported from Wicipedia for the Welsh translation (cy). I have started in alphabetical order and have completed to the end of the letter a. I was not sure how big a chunk of reviewed messages you wanted to upload at a time. Do you want me to review all of the imported core messages or should I notify you in chunks in alphabetical order?

Also, I am not sure how to find out what some of these messages do. For example, in imagelisttext what is the variable $2?

Also, I am still not clear about what happens after the updated system messages are uploaded onto Mediawiki. Is there then an automatic update to the interfaces on the Welsh language wikis and other multi-language wikis which have a Welsh interface? Or do we need to request developers to update each wiki individually? Please excuse the many questions. Lloffiwr 9. kesäkuuta 2007 kello 20.38 (UTC)


 * 1) Better go trough and review all of the imported messages at first. 2) Medawiki:bydate, I think 3) All non modified messages are updated automatically — Nike 10. kesäkuuta 2007 kello 16.54 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for the replies - I will go and bother people on Mediawiki about the context of system messages! :) Lloffiwr 10. kesäkuuta 2007 kello 20.29 (UTC)

Please commit - Galician
Hi, Nike. Please export and commit the translations for Galician. I've added this request to Translating:Tasks. --Xosé(&#9993;) 18:03, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi. You've left me a message re. importing messages from gl.wikipedia and mentioned there still are some problematic messages. I assume that's now, even after having exported them. Could you point me to those problematic messages? --Xosé(&#9993;) 17:35, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Help needed for committing the Somali language translation
Terve, Nike. Olen jonkun verran tehnyt somalian kielen käännökset ja ajattelin että voisit ajaa järjestelmän läpi. En ole ihan varma mitä lisätietoa tarvitaan, kun tämä on ensimäistä kertaa. Kiitos etukäteen avusta. ---- M. I. Mursal -- 3. toukokuuta 2007 kello 16.26 (UTC)


 * Laiton nyt ne pari sataa kääntämääsi viestiäsi ohjelmaan mukaan. Toivottavasti se oli mitä tarkoitit. — Nike 3. toukokuuta 2007 kello 21.22 (UTC)
 * Kyllä. Ja ne toimii aika hyvin vaikka ovat oleet hyvin vähän käännöksiä. so.wikissa oli ”Help:Contents” ja somalian kielen käännös ”Caawinaad:Bogga” tuli uutana, joka ei ole toiminut ennen kuin tein jälleen ohjauksen. Onko tämä normaalia käännöksien jälkeen vai menikö jotain pieleen? Huom. fi.wikissa on muotoa Wikipedia:Ohje. ---- M. I. Mursal -- 6. toukokuuta 2007 kello 11.36 (UTC)

Committing for Somali language
Hei, Niklas

On taas tehty käännöksiä, joten voisitko ajaa systeemille. Voisitko antaa vinkkejä miten so.wikissa olemassa olevat (eli englannin kielisana) sivuille voisi tehdä käännösten lisääntyessä? Tehdä uusia sivuja, jälleen ohjatta vai jotain muuttaa. Kiitos. ---- M. I. Mursal -- 9. toukokuuta 2007 kello 14.11 (UTC)


 * En ole ihan varma mitä tarkoitat. Jos sivuja on muokattu so.wikissä, niin uudet käännökset eivät korvaa niitä automaattisesti. Turhia sivuja Mediawiki-nimiavaruudesta voi poistaa. — Nike 9. toukokuuta 2007 kello 15.26 (UTC)

Translator for su
Hi Nike, just to let you know (though you're probably have noticed :), I've given "translator" right to User:Irwangatot as he's going to help on su: translation. Thx. --IvanLanin 9. toukokuuta 2007 kello 16.39 (UTC)


 * Ok. Feel free to add updates to Translating:Developer log if it is not too much burden to you. — Nike 10. toukokuuta 2007 kello 12.45 (UTC)

I will. I thought it's only for your own log :) --IvanLanin 11. toukokuuta 2007 kello 02.11 (UTC)

Pohjoissaamenkielisen Wikipedian kääntäminen
Hei! Olen pohjoissaamenkielisen Wikipedian yksi ylläpitäjistä. Pohjoissaamenkielisen Wikipedian "pohjatekstien" kääntäminen on todella heikolla mallilla. Olen yrittänyt joitain tekstejä kääntää, mutten ymmärrä niistä paljoakaan. Minua neuvottiin ottamaan yhteyttä tänne. Osaisitko kertoa miten olisi kaikista helpointa kääntää Wikipedian "perustekstejä" pohjoissaameks ja missä? --Skuolfi 13. toukokuuta 2007 kello 13.03 (UTC)


 * Kääntäminen täällä onnistuu samoin kuin muissakin Mediawikeissä; sivulla Toiminnot:Translate. Auttaisiko kääntämistä, jos näkisit suomenkielisen käännöksen englanninkielisen tekstin rinnalla? — Nike 14. toukokuuta 2007 kello 10.38 (UTC)


 * Hei! Anteeksi, että vastaaminen kesti näinkin kauan. (Melkein neljä kuukautta... Ups...) Kesätyöt vain veivät energiaani niin paljon, mutta nyt kun koulu on jälleen alkanut, niin palailen aktiivisemmin pohjoissaamenkielisen Wikipedian pariin. Kääntämistä auttaisi todella paljon ehdottamasi asia, jos se vain on mahdollista. Tosin saatan vielä joutua kysymään neuvoa muutamaan otteeseen. - --Skuolfi 16:01, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Hei! Uusi kysymys, joka voi olla typerä, mutta minulle joudut vääntämään asioita rautalangasta. :) Päivittyvätkö täällä tekemäni käännökset automaattisesti pohjoissaamenkieliseen Wikipediaan? --Skuolfi 22:05, 1 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Aina kun pyydät, eli toivottavasti sopivan usein. – Nike 22:36, 1 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Hei! Olen kääntänyt noin puolet Toiminnot:Translate teksteistä. Voisitko päivittää niitä jossain vaiheessa pohjoissaamenkieliseen wikipediaan? --Skuolfi 15:24, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Message: nstab-template
Hello, I've chanend the "nstab-template" message in the kabyle interface, you've updated it but it still keeps the old one instead of the new one on the kab.wiki:


 * Old message: Talγa (with greek gamma)
 * New message: Talɣa (with latin gamma)

Thanks for any help or suggestion. Agurzil 14. toukokuuta 2007 kello 01.17 (UTC)
 * That is may be from cache in your browser. anyway I see "Talɣa" [/dev/?title=Malline:Wikivar&uselang=kab here]--AlefZet 14. toukokuuta 2007 kello 08.31 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the latre answer, I lost my password, whenever we create a template in the kabyle wikipedia we still have the old orthography : Talγa instead of Talɣa. example : . BTW Nike, can you update the interface and allow upload of images in the kabyle wikipedia? thanks Agurzil 29. kesäkuuta 2007 kello 19.41 (UTC)

Extremaduran Wikipedia
Hello! I´m one of the people working on the Extremaduran Wikipedia, and i would like to help tranlating the interface, coul you tell me what have i got to do to obtain the permissions?

Thanks and greetings! Tiu Chelu 20. kesäkuuta 2007 kello 08.15 (UTC)

Where do I post a query on the context of interface messages?
Dear Nike - this is a copy of my query on the context of the messages that I have left on meta at. I am copying it here so as to keep you informed.....

Thank you for the welcome message you left on my user page way back in November 2006! I write with a question concerning translation of the interface (I am updating the Welsh translation via [/betawiki/Etusivu Nike's special interface translation site]). I hope that you can help me find out where to post this query either on Meta or on Mediawiki.org or some other appropriate page. I have looked but am feeling a little lost. I don't know how to use IRC channels yet although I am trying to find out. Anyway this is the query:

When translating messages it is sometimes necessary to know the context of the message before it can be translated. It is often possible to guess the context and use of the message from its's title and up till now I have done translations by going through all the wiki special pages and actions that I can think of and searching for the word strings I find there in the list of allmessages. That means that I automatically know the context. However there are still messages which are a puzzle to me, eg Mediawiki:blocklink. Is there some way to find this out that I haven't understood?

If there isn't then could you consider creating a system which would provide some information on the message. Perhaps this could be done either individually for each message on its message talk page on meta or on a new page in table form. The information that could be useful for some of the messages is:


 * What page it appears on
 * What function it has (text, button label, tab label, choice in a dropdown box, check box label, message during an operation, message on completion of an operation).
 * What any message variables return in the finished product eg Mediawiki:Noconnect
 * Where the message is just a word or phrase in the middle of something else, then what comes before and after.

If it is matter of asking specific questions on individual messages, rather than creating a record of info on all messages, then where or who should I ask and can we build up a record of the answers that can be systematically accessed by all translators (ie not buried in an archive)?


 * I also have a query on the PLURAL function but that can wait! In hope Lloffiwr 26. kesäkuuta 2007 kello 20.07 (UTC)


 * As far as I know there is no active message documentation project. There's been some in the past, but nothing comprehensive. Best place to ask about context is probably on irc at #mediawiki-i18n or #mediawiki. — Nike 27. kesäkuuta 2007 kello 15.14 (UTC)


 * OK. Hope you enjoyed your vacation. Lloffiwr 27. kesäkuuta 2007 kello 22.56 (UTC)

Change a namespace
I've localized the problem, it's in the namespaces, here is a new table :

Thank you for your time. Agurzil 6. heinäkuuta 2007 kello 18.29 (UTC)

System messages
Pari korjausta järjestelmäviesteihin --Msg 16. heinäkuuta 2007 kello 09.53 (UTC)
 * Typo: Järjestelmäviesti:Confirmemail body: avamaalla -> avaamalla
 * Näyttää paremmalta isolla: Järjestelmäviesti:Talkpagelinktext: keskustelu -> Keskustelu

Ja jos nyt sitten lähdetään pilkkua viilaamaan oikein kunnolla, niin...

Järjestelmäviesti:Mainpagetext, Järjestelmäviesti:Versionrequired, Järjestelmäviesti:Versionrequiredtext

näissä Mediawiki -> MediaWiki

Kaikissa muissa kieliversioissa tuo on MediaWiki paitsi suomenkielisessä, ja sama tuossa keskustelu ainakin lähes kaikissa muissa tuo alkaa isolla kirjaimella. --Msg 17. heinäkuuta 2007 kello 19.16 (UTC)

Date formats for Icelandic
Hi! There is a missing dot in our date format at the Icelandic. The correct format is "j. F Y" (assuming PHP format). Can you fix this? --Friðrik Bragi Dýrfjörð 11. elokuuta 2007 kello 18.33 (UTC)
 * I asked him for the same thing on the IRC, I think he has updated it already. --Steinninn 11. elokuuta 2007 kello 18.59 (UTC)

Hi. Do you know what     dose? I tried looking for it on meta under Magic Words with no luck. --Steinninn 15. elokuuta 2007 kello 18.17 (UTC)
 * Maybe it would be great to have it at Järjestelmäviesti:Edittools. I tried to do it, but it's not done the same way as I'm used to. Sorry --Steinninn 16. elokuuta 2007 kello 21.46 (UTC)
 * Found some ns: help at Parser function. But what I still don't understand is, why doesn't the english translations use it? Whitelistreadtext is just one example where ns isn't used. --Steinninn 19. elokuuta 2007 kello 19.47 (UTC)


 * It's only needed when the page is referenced without description (in other words, when the namespace would show up as a text). — Nike 20. elokuuta 2007 kello 10.34 (UTC)

Tetum
Hello Nike.

I have made changes to the Tetum translation yet, but in the Tetum Wikipedia there are some things translated yet. Could they be imported to here? --MF-Warburg 18. elokuuta 2007 kello 12.37 (UTC)

deleted system messages
I have noticed that there are some system messages in cy/Wikipedia which have been deleted by Mediawiki (when I try to translate a warning appears that 'You are recreating a page that was previously deleted'). For example, see Exif-gaincontrol. Does this mean that I can skip translating these messages on this wiki too or are these system messages used on other wikis? Lloffiwr 25. elokuuta 2007 kello 19.11 (UTC)


 * Don't mind about those, just translate everything that isn't marked as optional. ˙--Nike 26. elokuuta 2007 kello 13.23 (UTC)


 * OK - thank you for the tip. Lloffiwr 26. elokuuta 2007 kello 21.59 (UTC)

timezone offset
Hello, Currently the timezone offset in the "my preferences" page can only be defined as an integer number of hours; however, there are some countries and regions that use half hour (eg: GMT+4:30 instead of just GMT+4): India, Iran, middle Australia zone, New Foundland, and from 1st of september Venezuela and maybe some few others. There is even a couple of countries (eg Nepal) that use quarter of an hour offsets. (and if we want to even complicat it, there are those summer/winter hours some countries love)

The information about the various different timzeones is usually available on the server computer; isn't it possible to get somehow a list of available timezones from the server system and display it to the user choice? (and have php use the system for the hour offset)

Srtxg

Haha
Is the traffic to the site still getting better? I'm trying to revive translators that were active until a while ago and that have uncommitted strings for their language by approching them on their home wikis. A few have become active almost instantly. The sad thing is: once I stop approaching people, some of them will most probably stop translating again. I want Gangleri back who did all this stuff and more for this project... Cheers! Siebrand 28. elokuuta 2007 kello 12.33 (UTC)

Uyghur interwiki mistake
Greetings Nike!

Nice to meet you.

Several Uyghurs have already kindly informed me that the interwiki link "Oyghurque" is the wrong pronounciation.

Can you please change it to: Uyghurche‎ / ئۇيغۇرچە

I had included both the Uyghur Latin script (Yengi Yezik) and Uyghur Arabic script (Kona Yezik) because both of them are still being used.

(For example, the Kurdish interwiki link also has two different scipts: Kurdî / كوردی )

Thankyou. --Jose77 29. elokuuta 2007 kello 05.41 (UTC)


 * Thankyou for your kind help. You are Awesome.
 * The Uyghurs will be very grateful. --Jose77 29. elokuuta 2007 kello 22.10 (UTC)

Bikol Translator
Hi Nike,

I hope you can grant Translator Priviledges to [/betawiki/Betawiki:Translator#section-097572fc396f0dd7fed1b1077050b123 User:Steven*fung] because he has made numerous contributions on Bikol Incubator Wikipedia and would like to translate the system messages into Bikol.

Thankyou. -- Joseph, 21:03, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

frp (Arpetan)
Hello, Nike! Could you please add/change the following [/betawiki/User:ChrisPtDe#section-d918ff51b942c01a08b0a9f68f9ed779], [/betawiki/User:ChrisPtDe#section-e10a115980e22a3ca2ca5c5ec4e402aa] and [/betawiki/User:ChrisPtDe#section-7924645de5af9989d708ea7f1d5d1a17] besides commiting the core system messages (1400+ updates). Thanks! Chris P t De bl @ bl @  04:58, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Untranslated strings on Recent Changes Page of BW
Hi Nike, on the mentioned page the following 2 strings are still untranslated (must be in Upper Sorbian):


 * Track the most recent changes to the wiki on this page
 * View modifications to this language:

Where can I translate them? Seems that they are untranslated in all languages (but I tested German only). Regards, --Michawiki 21:50, 1 September 2007 (UTC)


 * First one is supposed to be in content language. Second one is local modification and not worth translating. – Nike 22:38, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

All languages checked: status and planning
Hi Nike. I have checked all languages for messages that were not equal to those in SVN. Where possible I have left a message at the editing user's home wiki, inviting home to request a commit. For some languages I have requested a commit here. Earlier I posted messages about localisation of MediaWiki in village pumps that were linked from Meta.

Next will be another trip around the languages as specifically targeting Village Pumps for langauges we have not yet seen traffic on on Betawiki. My plan is to provide some statistics and examples tailored to the specific languages when posting the messages. I plan to post in both Wikipedia and Wiktionary for the language, inviting those interested here.

Also, I was wondering if the current capacity of committers is sufficient. If needed, I could also request commit access as a committer, so I can also take some of the commit load. I would need some specific training on the DOs and DON'Ts, I guess, but I expect to pick things up quickly.

Anyway, please let me know if I can improve on any of the plans I explained above. Cheers! Siebrand 15:54, 3 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Let me just say, I think it's a great idea. I've went to fo.wikipedia and saw that they had translated a lot locally and asked them if they were interested in coming to Betawiki. There's not much activity there so I'm still waiting for a response. I'm also going to wait one or two months before I do any more promoting, because it looks like Betawiki is going to be moving to Incubator. I wouldn't recommend promoting a project that's about to be moved. How about waiting for one month and then promote Incubator instead? For instance, I created this template to be put on wikipedia:MediaWiki:editinginterface if and when Betawiki moves to Incubator. --Steinninn 17:40, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Patches ready, please review
Hi Nike. I've got some patches ready for nl and frc extensions. Could you please review? Cheers! Siebrand 09:05, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Committed. Siebrand 17:08, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Please create sdc — Sassarese
Hi Nike. Please add the language Sassarese with ISO 639-3 code sdc. A project in the language has been conditionally approved. See my talk page. Cheers! Siebrand 22:17, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

scn
Hello, Nike. I'm the translator for sicilian language. I've translated all interface messages. Now I'd like to provide localization information for sicilian. How can I do this? Thanks, Tonyfroio 13:41, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * What exactly are you talking about? Things like namespaces and such? This is not supported through the translate extension and requires more understanding of MediaWiki functionality - please be aware of that. Please take a look at the class files and messages files in the MediaWiki subversion repository. Just let us know what you wish to add to the files or make your own diff to the files and request a commit of a patch through bugzilla. Does this answer your question? Cheers! Siebrand 14:56, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * P.s. 330 messages in the core messages as show untranslated[/betawiki/Special:Translate?task=untranslated&group=core&language=scn&limit=100]. Are all of those equal to the fallback language (first it, then en)? Please also do not forget about translating the messages for the extensions. [/betawiki/Special:Translate?task=untranslated&group=ext-0-all&language=scn&limit=100 981] show untranslated for scn. When translating extensions, please translate them one extension at a time. This makes exporting and committing the extensions easier for us.
 * Yes, I was talking about them (namespaces etc.). I think I'm not able to change those files.
 * I've seen untranslated messages and I'm about to translate them (but many of them are identical to fallback language). Then should I ask for exporting or translate extension messages before? Thanks, Tonyfroio 17:20, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi, Tonyfroio. You could do the same thing I did for the Arpitan localizations: First create something similar to this on your personal pages and then ask Nike to commit it as a patch. Goodbye, Chris P t De bl @ bl @  19:45, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, ChrisPtDe. Here are the informations. Thanks for helping.--Tonyfroio 11:38, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Tetum special page names
$specialPageAliases = array( 'Watchlist' => array( "Lista_hateke" ), 'Recentchanges' => array( "Mudansa_foufoun_sira" ), 'Upload' => array( "Tau_iha_arkivu_laran" ), 'Imagelist' => array( "Lista_imajen" ), 'Listusers' => array( "Lista_uza-na'in" ), 'Statistics' => array( "Estatístika" ), 'Randompage' => array( "Pájina_ruma" ), 'Allpages' => array( "Pájina_hotu" ), 'Specialpages' => array( "Pájina_espesiál_sira" ), 'Version' => array( "Versaun" ), 'Allmessages' => array( "Mensajen_hotu" ), 'Search' => array( "Buka" ), ); --MF-Warburg 18:12, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Import requests
Hi Nike. I got import requests for messages from the following wikis: Thanks. Cheers! Siebrand 08:53, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * http://be.wikipedia.org. Please notify User:Yury Tarasievich when done.
 * http://ce.wikipedia.org User:Girdi when done.

PLURAL and GRAMMAR for Welsh translation
Following our IRC conversation of some time ago I have put the option of using a combination of PLURAL and GRAMMAR for Welsh plurals to the Welsh wicipedia community and had no objections. However, before going ahead, I would like to check with you the following. You suggested that we could use a GRAMMAR function which would have two outputs, one for $1=0 and the other for everything else. If we do this will we still be able to use GRAMMAR for other things as well? I ask because we may need to use GRAMMAR for initial mutations (the first letter of some words changes depending on the word before it or its syntax). So far we have been able to avoid this problem quite well, but we may need to be able to have a GRAMMAR function which has the capacity to have 4 outputs (eg. Cymorth, Gymorth, Nghymorth, Chymorth for the namespace 'Help'). Lloffiwr 11:57, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Grammar can output about anything, but it can take only two inputs, the string and name of grammatical function which is applied to the string. – Nike 12:11, 5 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I have looked again at the advice concerning GRAMMAR on Wikimedia and unfortunately I still can't work out whether we can use GRAMMAR for coping with the grammar needed for $1=0 in PLURAL and also still keep the possibility of using GRAMMAR to cope with initial mutation (if and when needed). So I hope to set out what we need for both and then perhaps yourself, or another developer if you're busy, could advise us what is possible. I have put the logic needed (not the wiki logic, just normal logic) for both on the LanguageCy.php_and_MessagesCy.php page. Lloffiwr 14:04, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

PLURAL for Irish translation
Hi, just wondering if you could help with doing this for Irish as well - it’s a similar situation. We could perhaps do something with GRAMMAR down the track to handle the sound changes automatically, but maybe the first objective should be to allow translators to put the different forms in as parameters to PLURAL.

The usual kludge is to just use a plural form after numbers (which doesn’t require a 'mutation'), but although this is technically OK, it isn’t the way the language normally works.

So can you help if I work out the logic? Actually I’m sure I have it somewhere as implementing something like this for translations on LiveJournal was discussed some years ago, though it never eventuated for Irish. ☸ Moilleadóir ☎ 16:39, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

help
i asked for Translator privileges and i got it, but how can i edit [/betawiki/Special:Translate?task=view&group=core&language=shi here]

thank you very much.:)
 * Please use Support for asking these general questions. It is the place where more than one user can answer a question. Cheers! Siebrand 13:01, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

mzn Messages
Is it possible to importing system messages in php by uploading file ? or otherwise what can i do to importing them directly ? --Ali1986 03:49, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Importing translations?
Hi, I'm going to try to do "localization" for Volapük. Since I've been working for a while on the Volapük Wikipedia and Wiktionary, many, maybe most of the system messages have already been translated. Is there a way to import them from the Volapük Wikipedia to here, so that I don't have to redo them all? --Smeira 03:50, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I can do the import if you promise to fix (i.e. clean up and generalize) the import in some reasonable time frame. – Nike 07:08, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh yes, I do! But what's a reasonable time frame for you? Given the size of the task (thousands of messages), maybe 3-6 months? A year? (Note that I'm still finding my way around in this wiki.) --Smeira 21:47, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * You don't need to translate every message yet. You just have to make the imported messages appropriate and suitable for any MediaWiki installation. – Nike 05:18, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * And what does that mean? Just replacing e.g. "Wikipedia" with "" and similar things? --Smeira 15:24, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Sorry -- you probably have a lot of work to do -- but when will I be able to work with the messages already translated from the Volapük Wikipedia? Have they already been imported, or will they soon be? --Smeira 01:40, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Template:style yi · talk
Dear Nike,

Halló from Munich! Please take a look at Template talk:style yi and Template:style yi. I want to display this text

in three different sizes but it does not work as expected / as it did one year ago.

Thanks in advance! Best regards Gangleri · T · w:en: Th · T 20:41, 14 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot! Best regards Gangleri · T · w:en: Th · T 08:34, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

user:Gangleri/tests/MediaWiki word list/en
Dear Nike,

can you please extract all words from the MediaWiki messages visible (or relevant) to the user, sort them uniqualy and insert them to user:Gangleri/tests/MediaWiki word list/en.

Thanks in advance! Best regards Gangleri · T · w:en: Th · T 17:28, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Import request
Please import the http://be.wikipedia.org messages which expand and partially supercede the be messages hosted on this site. Please notify me when done. Thanks. Yury Tarasievich 07:05, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Touching the entry, to promote it. Would like to continue the work on the translation, but wouldn't like to make the work twice... :)) Yury Tarasievich 19:22, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
 * ✅ see your talk page. Cheers! Siebrand 21:43, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

php-parameter to display the page content only
Dear Nike,

Please let me know the full url to display the content of Main_Page only.

I knew that paramater which would allow not to display the navigation, search, toolbox etc links but due to my long wikibreak I forgot that syntax.

Thanks in advance! Best regards Gangleri · T · w:en: Th · T 08:50, 16 October 2007 (UTC)


 * action=raw or action=render – Nike 15:28, 18 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks Nike!


 * /dev/?title=User:Gangleri/tests/MediaWiki_word_list/en&action=render · works · displays the page
 * /dev/?title=User:Gangleri/tests/MediaWiki_word_list/en&action=raw · works · download link


 * Best regards! Gangleri · T · w:en: Th · T 17:24, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Loz - Silozi
I can't select the Lozi interface on other wikis but it is exported already. SF-Language 06:38, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Please be patient. – Nike 10:53, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Already commited twice. Still doesn't work. Litingatinga Silozi 15:40, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

There's always time
for a quick edit. &mdash; 81.197.70.233 20:00, 22 October 2007 (UTC)


 * ...or a quick ping. &mdash; 207.162.58.44 20:13, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

What does "CV" mean?
Hi Nike. There are new messages in the extensions and in some of them the abbreviation "CV" occurs. What does this abbreviation mean? Here are the messages: confirmaccount-attach, requestaccount-attach. The word "resume" is unclear to me in this context as well. And, what does mean "on hold" (confirmaccount-hold). Thanks. --Michawiki 19:22, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * See resume – Nike 15:45, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Problem with extension Flagged Revs
Hi Nike. I got this error message when calling the messages table:

No messages returned for extensionFlagged Revs (mw ext)

Backtrace:


 * 1) 0 /home/nike/public_html/dev/extensions/Translate/MessageGroups.php(336): ExtensionMessageGroup->load('en')
 * 2) 1 /home/nike/public_html/dev/extensions/Translate/MessageGroups.php(439): ExtensionMessageGroup->getDefinitions
 * 3) 2 /home/nike/public_html/dev/extensions/Translate/TranslateTasks.php(110): AllMediawikiExtensionsGroup->getDefinitions
 * 4) 3 [internal function]: ViewMessagesTask->preinit
 * 5) 4 /home/nike/public_html/dev/extensions/Translate/TranslateTasks.php(58): call_user_func(Array)
 * 6) 5 /home/nike/public_html/dev/extensions/Translate/TranslatePage.php(24): TranslateTask->execute
 * 7) 6 /home/nike/public_html/dev/includes/SpecialPage.php(459): SpecialTranslate->execute(NULL)
 * 8) 7 /home/nike/public_html/dev/includes/Wiki.php(201): SpecialPage::executePath(Object(Title))
 * 9) 8 /home/nike/public_html/dev/includes/Wiki.php(45): MediaWiki->initializeSpecialCases(Object(Title), Object(OutputPage), Object(WebRequest))
 * 10) 9 /home/nike/public_html/dev/index.php(89): MediaWiki->initialize(Object(Title), Object(OutputPage), Object(User), Object(WebRequest))
 * 11) 10 {main}

Could you check what the reason is? And, would you give me a reply to my question in the section here before? (What does "CV" mean?) Thanks and kind regards, --Michawiki 20:29, 27 October 2007 (UTC)


 * The reason for the FlaggedRevs problem is rev:26976. --UV 22:43, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Overhauls must be of course. Thanks. --Michawiki 11:00, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

the real fallback language
Well, I don't even always see the fallback language. When translating into Icelandic it would be nice to always see the English version. No matter where I click edit. --Steinninn 01:34, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * English isn't real fallback language, it's shown always. Are you sure you are using Special:Translate and clicking edit? – Nike 06:46, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * In Upper Sorbian is the same issue. There German is the fallback language. But I see English only. Or asked anybody to change the fallback language for hsb? --Michawiki 14:08, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * [/dev/?title=MediaWiki:Tog-underline/is&action=edit edit] does not display the english version. Can this be changed? --Steinninn 01:35, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Steininn, you should be logged in. Don't use the message link itself but the "edit" button to show English, fallback language and Icelandic. But at the moment in Upper Sorbian the fallback language (German) isn't shown. :-( --Michawiki 10:04, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry, Steinninn, of course. --Michawiki 10:07, 30 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Is your issue fixed now, Michawiki? – Nike 17:31, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, it works again now. Thanks, --Michawiki 18:51, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup
And another thing, I was thinking about cleaning up at Special:Allpages. Are there any things that I should be extra careful not to delete? --Steinninn 01:38, 29 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Don't know, use common sense. If you are not sure, nominate it for deletion instead of deleting it straightaway. – Nike 06:50, 29 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I'll start deleting a few, please keep an eye on [/dev/?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=Steinninn&page= my deletions] in the next few days. --Steinninn 01:36, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Idea
Maybe it's good have a feature on Special:Translate to hide optional messages. Then we can have a better view what is not yet translated. SPQRobin 22:48, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Plural
Yes, it's mine. --Derbeth talk 19:28, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, if I have some time. --Derbeth talk 19:56, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Negative numbers names are wrong. Negative numbers should be treated as their absolute value. --Derbeth talk 20:17, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Problem in Upper Sorbian Wikipedia
Hi Nike. Dundak and I we have a problem in hsbwp. Dundak wrote yesterday that he was able to select Lower Sorbian in the preferences of the German Wikipedia. So we wanted to test it in hsbwp, too. But, what a shock. The switching worked but we switched into nothing. Now, we haven't access to the pages in hsbwp when we are logged in. We can use hsbwp only when we aren't logged in. Do you have any idea how to solve this issue? I tested it in Estonian wp, too and there it worked as well. May be it would work in hsbwp now, too, but at first we have to find a way back to our preferences dialog. Thank in advance and kind regards, --Michawiki 21:41, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Should hopefully be fixed now. – Nike 07:49, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately not. As soon as I'm logged in I get empty pages only. By http://hsb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences?uselang=hsb I can access to the preferences dialog, but after saving it's the same issue. Regards, --Michawiki 13:05, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * This is a "works for me" logged in, with interface language set to "hsb" in FireFox 2.0.0.8. Have you tried emptying all your caches? Have you tried in multiple browsers? Have you cleared your monobook.js/.css? Cheers! Siebrand 14:11, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * The log-in process works for me as well. But after this I can't acces to all pages, they are empty. Usually I use SM, but I tried it in FF 2.0.0.8 as well but there is the same issue. Cache I've emptied repeatedly as well. To Common.js and Common.css I don't have access because they are protected. I assume they are protected for users they aren't logged in. But as soon as I'm logged in, I see empty Common.js resp. Common.css only. May be there's any conflict between hsb and dsb. I'm in a trap. --Michawiki 14:55, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Right! If I log in to hsb.wikipedia and I set my language to dsb, I am indeed between a rock and a hard place: empty pages. I'll look into it. Cheers! Siebrand 15:01, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * REALLY strange. I have alsotried setting my language to both hsb and dsb on ff.wikipedia and I do not see the same symptoms there. I'll ask in #mediawiki. Cheers! Siebrand 15:04, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi Seibrand. It works again. Only god knows what has been and why it's working again. Thank you for your efforts. Kind regards, --Michawiki 17:26, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

commit changes to transstat.php?
Hi Nike. It looks like you may have made some changes to transstat.php to create Full list. transstat.php should report on any selectable language for the interface of MediaWiki anyway, so could you please commit those changes to SVN? This will also mean that SPQRobin will be able to get his data from www.mediawiki.org instead of needing you to run the modified script. Cheers! Siebrand 10:11, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Those languages are not selectable, they just have a code, nothing else. What's so hard having one page which lists those (it doesn't need to be updated anyway). ­--Nike 10:50, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

transstat.php-like stats for extension translate supported extensions
Hey Nike. Now that I'm writing on your talk page, I might as well push my other idea/need to you. Would you be abel and willing to write some transstat.php-like functionality to report on the translation status of messages from i18n-able extensions, or, which is probably easier, extensions that are supported by extension Translate. Using translate as a list provider will probably also make maintenance easier/not required. Cheers! Siebrand 10:13, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * If I have time. --Nike 10:51, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Message editing still broken
... Siebrand 10:28, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Really fixed this time? --Nike 10:51, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Yep. Thanks. Siebrand 10:58, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Message editing is broken again. Translation table isn't shown. --Michawiki 19:41, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * And hopefully fixed again. Sorry for the bumpy ride. – Nike 20:23, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Destiny :-). Thank you for the immediate settlement. --Michawiki 21:39, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Question
Hi Nike. Another little issue. In the special page for "Short pages" usually stands the size of the short page behind the entries. But with us, in hsbwp, the number is missing, there is the word bajtow (=bytes) only, without number. Seems that there any variable is missing. I've already checked the messages and they are all OK. IMHO the most probable message which could be responsible for this is pagesize. But this message doesn't contain any variable, nor in English. What cause could be for this error? Regards, --Michawiki 21:54, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * There was a $1 missing in Mediawiki:Nbytes. Corrected. --Dundak 07:49, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Anyway, Nike, may I ask you a question? Where could I define for the purpose of getting right spellings in Dsb? For instance, Wikipedija, Wikipedije, Wikipediji and so on? Thanks! --Dundak 07:49, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

The error in the message nbytes was local only, in hsbwp. Here in Betawiki it's correct. --Michawiki 10:15, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
 * @Dundak: I think in LanguageDsb.php. --Michawiki 10:15, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Internal error
Reported as requested :

"Internal error

Copy this message and

1. Paste it toUser_talk:Nike 2. Send it to niklas.laxstrom (at) gmail.com 3. Report it on #mediawiki-i18n @ freenode

No task for id

Backtrace:


 * 1) 0 /home/nike/public_html/dev/extensions/Translate/TranslatePage.php(60): TranslateTasks::getTask('')
 * 2) 1 /home/nike/public_html/dev/extensions/Translate/TranslatePage.php(19): SpecialTranslate->setup
 * 3) 2 /home/nike/public_html/dev/includes/SpecialPage.php(459): SpecialTranslate->execute(NULL)
 * 4) 3 /home/nike/public_html/dev/includes/Wiki.php(201): SpecialPage::executePath(Object(Title))
 * 5) 4 /home/nike/public_html/dev/includes/Wiki.php(45): MediaWiki->initializeSpecialCases(Object(Title), Object(OutputPage), Object(WebRequest))
 * 6) 5 /home/nike/public_html/dev/index.php(89): MediaWiki->initialize(Object(Title), Object(OutputPage), Object(User), Object(WebRequest))
 * 7) 6 {main}"

Sherbrooke 14:57, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Add editing languages
Hi Nike, as you offer I'll be glad to get some roman languages added to my edit pages in addition to English for the Breton translation. It doesn't matter which ones really. Thanks in advance. --Fulup 14:48, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Edition box height
When I wish to translate a message, I jump to Special:Translate, choose the message, and click edit. Betawiki opens a page with three edition boxes. The height of the third is set within my preferences.

However, in the third box, most messages fit on one line. For this reason, I set the height of that box to 6 lines (this saves time when I scroll down). However, the setting applies to all edit boxes (e.g., when I edit the support page).

It would be nice to set the third edit box height without changing the setting of the other edit boxes.

Regards, Sherbrooke 12:25, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Prefs-help-email-required
Are you sure it is not in the English message file. When I run checkLanguage.php using revision 27310 it complains that the message is not translated. In my wiki installation the message is in MessagesEn.php, and is used in SpecialPreferences.php and Userlogin.php. And if I set $wgEmailConfirmToEdit=true in LocalSettings I can see the message in the wiki at Special:Preferences. I think the message has existed since revison 26584, and I can't see that it was removed or readded later. /Lejonel 10:12, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry, you're right. It got accidentally removed somehow. --Nike 11:30, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Testing email
Boo! Siebrand 15:02, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Commit Lozi
A few weeks ago the translations of Lozi (loz) were commited but I still can't select loz -Silozi on other wikis, what's the problem? SF-Language 16:02, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Still doesn't work. Siebrand just commited the core. Litingatinga Silozi 15:41, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Oc
Hi! Can you please committ my recent changes for occitan language! Thanks! ;) Cedric31 14:39, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

lost edits
Hi Nike! If you edit a section at a user talk page, if you add some text but do not insert a comment the edit will be lost.

Please confirm. Best regards G - ג · T · w:en: Th · T 00:52, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

error in image namespace
Hi Nike! [] shows:

Links

The following pages link to this file:

* User talk:Gangleri * Betawiki:LanguageYi.php and MessagesYi.php * :Yiddish * :Yiddish * Yiddish

The links starting with a colon relate to deleted pages please see the [ log].

Please confirm. Best regards G - ג · T · w:en: Th · T 01:00, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Feature request SpecialTranslationChanges.php
Hi Nike, could you please add links for each language's header to "Special:Translate?task=review&group=core&limit=500" and "Special:Translate?task=review&group=ext-0-all&limit=500". Currently I do this through copying to User:Siebrand/todo, but with this feature request implemented, it will save me at some time every time I commit. Thanks. Siebrand 23:39, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Karakalpak
Copied from User_talk:Siebrand#Karakalpak 

I can not find proper way for that... Please commit files User:AlefZet/LanguageKaa.php & User:AlefZet/MessagesKaa.php BTW "Karakalpak" is preferably instead "Kara-Kalpak" Thanks--AlefZet 11:52, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I took care of the messages page. I asked User:Nike to take care of the LanguageKaa.php part, as I am not a programmer able to audit that code. Cheers! Siebrand 18:45, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Is any chance for commiting the LanguageKaa.php for kaa? Needed programm modules copy-n-pasted from tr and kk files and everything seems OK. --AlefZet 20:55, 20 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Sorry for the delay, it is now committed – Nike 19:53, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank You very match, Nike!--AlefZet 23:50, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Namespaces mismatch
"Traslating talk:" had typo: should be "Translating talk:"--AlefZet 21:42, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Language names
Why some languages (fiu-vro, kaa, kk-kz/kk-cn/kk-tr, pms, pnt, shi) haven't English names, but others had?
 * Cldr coverage isn't perfect. – Nike 10:43, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

mergehistory-success
Hello Nike, does this message support Plural? I don't have much context, but it looks like it would be useful in English too. Best, --BrokenArrow 23:18, 1 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I was just going to point out the same thing. Helix84 18:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I guess there should be a parameter specifying who did the merge in Pagemerge-logentry. Helix84 18:32, 3 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Plural is supported in the success message. See for example Grondins french translation MediaWiki:Mergehistory-success/fr. The logentry is similar to other log entries seen in Special:Log, the Pagemerge-logentry is the part of the log that is shown after the date and username. So no parameter is needed for the username who did the merge. /90.229.135.31 22:07, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Wp/njo
HI nike, I have been granted the translator previlege for Ao Wikipedia test project i.e. Wp/njo. The problem is I've no clue how to proceed. For eg, what is 'commit' and 'import'? Forgive me for my ignorance, but I am determined to see Ao Wikipedia take off. Thanks. --Aoelixir
 * Hi Aoelixir. To commit means putting the translation work from Betawiki into the MediaWiki product. That is done by developers (technical export). To import messages would be importing already translated MediaWiki messages from another wiki. As far as I know, that is not possible here, as this would be the first MediaWiki project in Ao. So... Where to start: start on the 500 most often used messages for Ao. Best use a tabbed browser. Click CTRL+'edit' for a message, translate it in the bottom field of the newly opened tab and save the page. Continue the process for the next message, and so on. Please let us know at Support if you require any additional support. Cheers! Siebrand 19:44, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

ng/njo not in UI languages
Hi Nicklas. 'ng' is in the SVN version of Names.php. 'njo' is not, but I added it here. Both languages cannot be chosen in Special:Preferences. Can you explain why not? Cheers! Siebrand 15:01, 6 December 2007 (UTC)


 * This issue is now fixed. –Nike 15:40, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * What was it? (trying to learn :P) Siebrand 16:17, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

DO NOT SVN UP!
It looks like the update script that was added does not run when running 'php update.php', so I rolled back to r28384. Siebrand 10:44, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Bug: optional messages not recognised in Special:TranslationChanges
Hi Nicklas. Optional messages are not being recognised in Special:TranslationChanges. See the changed in Chemistry for 'ar/Arabic' from 17 dec 2007 12:16 CET. Siebrand 15:23, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Database errors today
Hello,

Today I have seen the following error several times on different pages at betawiki.

Databasfel Ett syntaxfel i databasfrågan har uppstått. Den senaste utförda databasfrågan var:

DELETE FROM `bw_objectcache` WHERE exptime < '20071224225529'

från funktionen "MediaWikiBagOStuff::_doquery". MySQL returnerade felen "126: Incorrect key file for table './testwiki/bw_objectcache.MYI'; try to repair it (localhost)".)

If I try to the reload the page, I have not gotten the same error. I don't know if this is a serious error, but I thought you might want to know about it. /Lejonel 23:03, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I just did a table replair on the table objectcache. Should be fine again. Thank you for reporting this. Cheers! Siebrand 23:13, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Purpose of this
Hello Nike. I really wants to know about this wiki biefly. What main main purpose of this wiki?--Muddyb Blast Producer 17:40, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Please see Main Page. Cheers! Siebrand 19:34, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Bug in Special:Magic
Hi, Nike. There is a bug in Special:Magic. Every and each time I click "Save" after modifying a magic word, an extra space is added between every two words in the translation. See the difference between this version and this one. Example: redirect=0, #تحويل, #REDIRECT (Revision as of 7 October 2007, Normal behaviour: one space between every two words) redirect=0,    #تحويل,     #REDIRECT (Revision as of 27 December 2007, After updating the translation several times, extra spaces are added between every two words)

Thank you. --Meno25 03:59, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Not a problem. This is again corrected in the export. Cheers! Siebrand 09:20, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Additional language in the message edit page of lb
Hi Nike,

In order to facilitate the task of translating all the messages to lb it would be great if you could ad French (fr) as Additional language in the message edit page (in addition to the real fallback language (=german)).

Many thanks for this really great tool --Robby 08:58, 5 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Done. – Nike 11:11, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Update localisation checks, please
Thanks. Siebrand 13:33, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Dear Nike Greetings
I am the translator of pashto wikipedia http://ps.wikipedia.org. My name is Ahmed Najib Biabani Ibrahimkhel which is my username in wikiMedia and i use the pashto form of my name which is احمد-نجيب-بياباني-ابراهيمخېل as a username in Pashto wikipedia.

Now since i have been translating the Pashto wikipedia interface which i have done at some extent, i am asking you if there is any possibility to take the translated terms and set it automatically in the rest of the wikimedia projects like wikibooks and wikitionary.

I am also requesting you to make the same changes in NukaWiki and wikiMedia.

If you could do this favour for me i would be thankful to u.

or if you could let me know how i can do that i would appreciate that

Regards

--Ahmed-Najib-Biabani-Ibrahimkhel 03:52, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Re: Message documentation
Hi, Nike! Translation of MediaWiki:Ipboptions/tg is fixed. Farrukh 03:33, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks! – Nike 06:57, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Peripheral Mongolian - mvf
Hi! I can not find the Peripheral Mongolian - mvf (Mongolian with the Mongolian script) language in the language list on Special:Translate. Max sonnelid 18:52, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Inflection
It will be helpful to support Grammar. However, I wonder how you can support individual language grammars? for eg: consider two mlwiki sitenames: Inflection changes are: --Jacob.jose 18:13, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
 * wikipedia = വിക്കിപീഡിയ
 * wiktionary = വിക്കിനിഘണ്ടു
 * wikiquote = വിക്കി ചൊല്ലുകൾ
 * of wikipedia = വിക്കിപീഡിയയുടെ
 * of wiktionary = വിക്കിനിഘണ്ടുവിന്റെ
 * of wikiquote = വിക്കി ചൊല്ലുകളുടെ - not that it is not വിക്കി ചൊല്ലുകൾ + ടെ, but it is വിക്കി ചൊല്ലുക + ൾ changed to ളു + ടെ added.

FUZZY in /th
Hi, could you please describe why you add FUZZY text in MediaWiki:Perfcachedts/th and MediaWiki:Perfcached/th? --Ans 12:45, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


 * There are wikilinks used in these messages. Wikilinks may not be added in messages, they should be removed. SPQRobin 13:05, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Rotuman recommences
Sorry to have not responded to your post to my talk |talk page.... I am recommencing translating the interface.... am i still able to do this or has the project been shut down?? I just had a very busy few months last year and little access to internet.

Thanks for all the great work you do!

Matt
 * Hi Matt. The project is more alive than ever. Have fun! Siebrand 08:15, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Proposal for a WEB interface
How about building a namespace on this Wiki where messages would be stored for other wikis to come and fetch, dynamically, translated messages? Of course a local extension (for the client wikis) would have to perform caching in order not to overwhelm this wiki. Jldupont 14:11, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Can you remove the fallback for pms?
Hi! I have no problem with whatver you choose to put as a fallback, but it's REALLY annoying when every time you have to first manually delete the italian message, then to copy the english expression you are going to translate. Is there a way to get rid of Italian when translating? --Bèrto &#39;d Sèra 12:03, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm. Interesting question. Let's see if I can fix that for you... Cheers! Siebrand 12:45, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I did some testing and I think this is currently not possible. I'll discuss with Niklas if we want to invest in changing this behaviour... We have an extensive list of stuff we also want to work on, so we have to prioritise a bit... Cheers! Siebrand 12:49, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

could not log in
I tried to log in with my nick "teferra" but i get wron password error. I tried to let it send me the password, though the wiki says it sent i do not recive any message in email. I have created new user name with the same email address. Is there any way to recover the old user name?Tefera 10:30, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * We can merge your old user to your new user, or set a new password if you send one of us an email. Just let us know what you prefer. Cheers! Siebrand 12:36, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Your edit
What's the actual difference your edit on MediaWiki:Userrights-nologin/nds makes ? I learned, that you should use local names for namespaces and special pages, even when they only appear in the URL (like    :$1 etc.), and that's what  does, isn't it?

And, by the way, why "kiss"? Just curious :-) --Slomox 02:50, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * KISS: The KISS principle (acronym for "Keep It Simple, Stupid") states that design simplicity should be a key goal and unnecessary complexity avoided. :) Siebrand 06:44, 17 March 2008 (UTC)


 * There is no need to add magic variables to links except in one case: link does not have a custom title. You wont notice it on Betawiki, but the MediaWiki will normalise link targets automatically (to the localised form). Keep up the good work! :D – Nike 08:47, 17 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay, thanks. KISS, in uppercase I think I had gotten the hang of it ;-) --Slomox 18:28, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Noarticletext/nds-nl
Why is MediaWiki:Noarticletext/nds-nl fuzzy. This is how it's displayed on the nds-nl-wiki. People find it very usefull (zeuken = search, start dit artikel = edit and prefixindex is extra). Servien 11:01, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That's great, and please do keep it there as such if that is what your local community wants. But localisation is not about personal preference, but about localising the standard interface as well as possible to the target language. Thank you for your understanding. Cheers! Siebrand 11:08, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Special Translate for Wp:ttt
Dear Nike

How can I for Wp:ttt?

Zandweb 14:31, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Set your language preference in Special:Preferences to 'ttt' and start editing in Special:Translate. Cheers! Siebrand 14:44, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Technical question
When I edited this, the system says that links like Introducción a las traducciones and many others have some sort of problem in them (that is why it is marked FUZZY) but I fail to see what the problem is. I asked SPQRobin about it and he told me it was OK and it is maybe something the software for some reason finds wrong. Can you have a look at it, please? I have asked this same question to Siebrand (just in case you find it already fixed). Thanks in advance. Regards. --Piolinfax 16:25, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Please do not ask the same trivial question to multiple users. Use Support Siebrand 16:59, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Hej Nike! Kan du vara snäll och ändra Sydjukagiriskans (yux) namn till Одул (på engelska: Southern Yukaghir). M.M.S. 15:37, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Mazanderani's local name
Could you |please respond to this request, It got me bored, After 1 year no one still changed it Owwwwwwwwwwwf, Thank you --Kaspischer 16:02, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Request denied. See Support. Siebrand 16:55, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Acct creation throttle hit
Could you please add PLURAL for this message? Siebrand moved discussion in archive. --EugeneZelenko 14:20, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry
Ups... sorry, i don't know what i was thinking about :S i've fixed all sentences. Tiu Chelu 00:11, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Error message at 01:20, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Unable to load messages for en in Clean changes

Backtrace:


 * 1) 0 /var/www/sandwiki/extensions/Translate/MessageGroups.php(352): ExtensionMessageGroup->load('en')
 * 2) 1 /var/www/sandwiki/extensions/Translate/MessageGroups.php(435): ExtensionMessageGroup->getDefinitions
 * 3) 2 /var/www/sandwiki/extensions/Translate/TranslateTasks.php(133): AllMediawikiExtensionsGroup->getDefinitions
 * 4) 3 [internal function]: ViewMessagesTask->preinit
 * 5) 4 /var/www/sandwiki/extensions/Translate/TranslateTasks.php(82): call_user_func(Array)
 * 6) 5 /var/www/sandwiki/extensions/Translate/TranslatePage.php(88): TranslateTask->execute
 * 7) 6 /var/www/sandwiki/includes/SpecialPage.php(533): SpecialTranslate->execute(NULL)
 * 8) 7 /var/www/sandwiki/includes/Wiki.php(224): SpecialPage::executePath(Object(Title))
 * 9) 8 /var/www/sandwiki/includes/Wiki.php(55): MediaWiki->initializeSpecialCases(Object(Title), Object(OutputPage), Object(WebRequest))
 * 10) 9 /var/www/sandwiki/index.php(92): MediaWiki->initialize(Object(Title), NULL, Object(OutputPage), Object(User), Object(WebRequest))
 * 11) 10 {main}

Vinhtantran 01:20, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Please provide the full URL and indicate if it can be reproduced. Thanks. Siebrand 01:22, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * You should not be using sandwiki. – Nike 05:54, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Swedish FreeCol
Can you please commit FreeCol in Swedish, I'm just done with the localization. I hope my translation of FreeCol come up with 0.7.4 (June 14, 2008 09:49).  M. M.  S.  07:59, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Recent changes
Recent changes broke due to an svn up to rectify the issue the following occurred: MinuteElectron 20:55, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * /var/www/w/includes/SpecialRecentchanges.php was renamed to /var/www/w/includes/SpecialRecentchanges.bak2
 * /var/www/w/includes/SpecialRecentchanges.bak was renamed to /var/www/w/includes/SpecialRecentchanges.php


 * Also line 426 (Recentchanges) was uncommented from includes/Autoloader.php. MinuteElectron 21:08, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Advanced Translate
Sorry!! I think now I know how it is. For instance, the first one: 0, #REDIRECT should be 0, #REDIRECT, #REDIRECCIÓN? Is that correct? I´ll correct it tomorrow. --ToliñoFala aquí comigo 20:17, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

German FreeCol
Hi, I have updated german translations, could you release them? Thx, Mayday 09:45, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I update all translation at once, so they will get in next export. – Nike 10:36, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * All right. But I found out a Problem. Many Codetags existing in the "FreeColMessages.properties" I could not found in the "FreeColMessages_de.properties" (for example model.nation.Dutch) or they are completly named different (en=colopedia.buildings.name.TownHall ; de=model.building.TownHall.name)! Is it possible to add this Codetags in my language or must this be done by an admin? Mayday 11:39, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Hmm? Codes which are not translated do not show up in translation files. Please check again after I have done the export. Note also that some messages are hidden under "optional messages", because they usually don't need translating. – Nike 12:31, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

revert
Becouse in Basque "Help" is "Laguntza". But you can put again the same thing, but, why? Is there any problem?--Bengoa (My user talk) 09:31, 28 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi, Bengoa. The namespace names should not be translated anywhere except for in Special:AdvancedTranslate. The reason for that is that the English names work everywhere, no matter what language a wiki is in. If you link to «Laguntza:Test», it will work fine on all Basque wikis, but if you use the Basque interface in a Russian wiki, it will not work, as «Laguntza» will not be a redirect to «Справка», while «Help» will be. Jon Harald Søby 09:35, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

My userpage
Thank you / míle maith agat / gura mie ayd :) - Alis o n  ❤ 18:16, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

maltese
I'm trying my best man to find the mistakes, it's not that simple though and requires time and patience and if you can help me as you already did, it helps too.

Any idea when the maltese plural feature will be released as it's slowing me a lot. cheers --Giangian15 14:52, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * We do a lot of things and we all do them voluntarily. Please be patient. Thank you for your understanding. If you think you are bing held back, there are 4100+ extension messages for MediaWiki, 1000+ messages for FreeCol and some 500 messages for other projects. If the plural has not been added when you are done with those in 3 weeks, I'll personally go to Finland and kick the shit out of Niklas :) Cheers! Siebrand 08:04, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Plural for Thai language
Hello Niki, I believe you're the FuzzyBot operator. I'm wondering if you can make the bot ignore "plural" tag for Thai l10n. In Thai language there are no single or plural forms. They use same words. Thank you.

By the way, I saw someone wrote down like this instead NaN หน้าs. --Manop 07:26, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * We currently do not have an intelligent FuzzyBot. Best just re-assess the translation, and if there is no need to update, just remove the !!FUZZY!!. Siebrand 08:02, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Number display in Khmer Language (km)
In Khmer Language, we don't need «,» in Natural numbers. (For example: (km:១,២៣៤) 1,234. In Khmer Language, it doesn't need «,». If it is placed, it means the digits after «,» is a decimal number. It is ១២៣៤. If ១,២៣៤ (1,234) it means 1.234). How can we remove the «,»? Thanks. --lovekhmer 13:13, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh, the same problem as German language. I don't think Nike have your Khmer Unicode. --P 13:28, 13 July 2008 (UTC)


 * So, 123123123.123 → ១២៣១២៣១២៣,១២៣ is this correct? – Nike 13:39, 13 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I can answer for him. It's correct. Khmer numbers are much close to Thai numbers I can understand it. --P 13:45, 13 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, It is. --lovekhmer 13:53, 13 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Updated. Please test and report if it doesn't work properly. – Nike 14:01, 13 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, I checked the statistics on Betawiki, the numbers displayed without «,». It is correct. Thanks so much. --lovekhmer 14:05, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Special:Version
Can we add translation like this?--Alnokta 02:30, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * This should be discussed on Support, or even better, create a . Cheers! Siebrand 10:44, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Breton tranlation for Freecol
Hi, I've updated the Breton translation for Freecol. Please summit it when you'll do the next export. Thanks. --Fulup 09:45, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Breton translation for Freecol
Hi, I've updated the Breton translation for Freecol. Please summit it when you'll do the next export. Thanks. --Fulup 09:45, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Freecol in fa
I'm done with reviewing fa translations of freecol. Feel free the commit them. Cheers, Huji 22:42, 18 July 2008 (UTC)