Thread:Support/nl-be/reply

IRC discussion. Moving this topic to the portal talk. [16:29]  Hi, the interface for nl-be says you should use vls instead. That is                  bullshit, vls is a dialect in West-Flanders, nl-be is Dutch spoken in                   Belgium, there is a big difference. Who can change that? [16:29]  Furthermore, nl-be should have default fallback nl. [16:30] Hamaryns: hi. Strong words. From it I read that you disagree with the current ISO 639-3, is that correct? See http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=vls [16:30] Hamaryns: It may be that 'vls' is being misused in the Wikimedia universe for something completely different, but that doesn't make what you say true. [16:31] Hamaryns: In translatewiki.net nl-be is only used for one product, being FreeCol. [16:42]  siebrand: hm, interesting, last time I checked Ethnologue only included West-Vlaams under vls. But that is a while ago. [16:42]  Which makes you’re right [16:42]  Also, last time I checked, the vls messages really were dialectal West-Vlaams. Terrible, really. [16:43]  But why not use nl-be for other projects? I have nl-be as my                  prefered language for the Wiktionary interface, for example. [16:43]  And from time to time you do see a message which feels very ‘Hollands’. [16:44]  all right, I used to have nl-be, but it is not available [16:46] Hamaryns: nl-be isn't a MediaWiki localisation code in MediaWiki proper - as said, we only have it at twn because it pre-existed in                  FreeCol. [16:47]  hm, allright then [16:48]  still: why not? [16:48]  shouldn’t be a problem if you set nl as default fallback [17:06] Hamaryns: no one has given a convincing reason of introducing a                  localisation for 'standard' Flemmish yet. If there is a Dutch/nl message that is hard to understand for Dutch speaking people living in Belgium, I think we should first try to resolve that in the nl                  locale. [17:07] Hamaryns: so if you find any, please address them at                  Portal_talk:Nl and I'll definitely join the discussion. [17:08]  ACK [17:08]  bye [17:08] Hamaryns: or fix them yourself with a comment that explains, etc.