User talk:Jacob.jose

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Inflection
Hello, I noticed you talked about inflection. Should we implement functionality for inflection? – Nike 17:52, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

It will be helpful to support Grammar. However, I wonder how you can support individual language grammars? for eg: consider three mlwiki sitenames: Inflection changes are: --Jacob.jose 18:13, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
 * wikipedia = വിക്കിപീഡിയ
 * wiktionary = വിക്കിനിഘണ്ടു
 * wikiquote = വിക്കി ചൊല്ലുകൾ
 * of wikipedia = വിക്കിപീഡിയയുടെ
 * of wiktionary = വിക്കിനിഘണ്ടുവിന്റെ
 * of wikiquote = വിക്കി ചൊല്ലുകളുടെ - not that it is not വിക്കി ചൊല്ലുകൾ + ടെ, but it is വിക്കി ചൊല്ലുക + ൾ changed to ളു + ടെ added.


 * I'd keep this discussion in one place only, if it suits you? Some languages have crude rules for inflection, but most languages just use look up tables for predefined forms of in some set of different inflections. The plus side is that one can keep messages generic, and still have inflection. Does this sound useful? – Nike 18:23, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Guess it should be useful. However, please note that I don't yet have a comprehensive idea of what you have in mind. As far as ml is concerned, having inflection support for of  and in   are required for sure.
 * in wikipedia = വിക്കിപീഡിയയിൽ
 * in wiktionary = വിക്കിനിഘണ്ടുവിൽ
 * in wikiquote = വിക്കി ചൊല്ലുകളിൽ - not that it is not വിക്കി ചൊല്ലുകൾ + ൽ, but it is വിക്കി ചൊല്ലുക + ൾ changed to ളി + ൽ added.
 * --Jacob.jose 18:39, 3 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes you can have multiple cases. For example to produce വിക്കിപീഡിയയിൽ and   to produce വിക്കിപീഡിയയുടെ. You'd need to identify the needed cases, name them, and then provide the forms for these cases for Wikimedia projects. – Nike 18:50, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that would be extremely helpful, provided there is sufficient flexibility in enhancing it with new kinds of inflections, as these inflections are identified ! --Jacob.jose 18:53, 3 February 2008 (UTC)


 * It is possible, but latency for Wikimedia settings to be applied is slow, so it would be a good thing if everything is decided by then. – Nike 07:31, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

This is the list that I can think of for now: --Jacob.jose 13:54, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * in
 * eg: in wikipedia = വിക്കിപീഡിയയിൽ; in wiktionary = വിക്കിനിഘണ്ടുവിൽ
 * of
 * eg: of wikipedia = വിക്കിപീഡിയയുടെ; of wiktionary = വിക്കിനിഘണ്ടുവിന്റെ
 * to
 * eg: to wikipedia = വിക്കിപീഡിയയോട്; to wiktionary = വിക്കിനിഘണ്ടുവിനോട്
 * for
 * eg: for wikipedia = വിക്കിപീഡിയയ്ക്ക്; for wiktionary = വിക്കിനിഘണ്ടുവിന്
 * with
 * eg: with wikipedia = വിക്കിപീഡിയയും; with wiktionary = വിക്കിനിഘണ്ടുവും
 * by
 * eg: by wikipedia = വിക്കിപീഡിയയാൽ; by wiktionary = വിക്കിനിഘണ്ടുവാൽ
 * and
 * eg: wikipedia and = വിക്കിപീഡിയയും; wiktionary and = വിക്കിനിഘണ്ടുവും
 * Do you know grammatical names for these forms that should be used? – Nike 20:41, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Nick, sorry for late reply. I will reply in detail in two weeks. I am off to somewhere. --Jacob.jose 18:49, 21 February 2008 (UTC)