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== What does this message mean? ==
:''This section is a place to request for the explanation about the usage of the messages. If you want to know where and when a specific message is used, put that message here.''
<!--[[Special:PrefixIndex/Translating_talk:|Translating talks for projects]], and [[:Translating:Translators' forum]]-->
* {{msg-mw|Coll-savedbook template}}
** requester: [[User:Ans|Ans]] 09:37, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
**:I will ask from Johannes when he comes back. – [[User:Nike|Nike]] 15:21, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
* {{msg-voctrain|Voctrain one of}} or {{msg-voctrain|Voctrain Powered by}}: Problematic Voctrain messages
** requester: What text follows {{msg-voctrain|Voctrain one of}} or {{msg-voctrain|Voctrain Powered by}}? Is it possible to include it as a parameter? --[[User:Fryed-peach|fryed-peach]] 05:35, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
* mwlibrl|043dd90b8ffc8d85153fb1c96bda4bb72aa8fdb2-rendering
** requester: I tried putting this as a wikilink via the usual template but couldn't get it to work, sorry. I guess that the message 'rendering' appears while the software is producing the book, as in 'rendering in progress' - is this correct? [[User:Lloffiwr|Lloffiwr]] 18:04, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
== Stabilization-restrict ==
The message {{msg-mw|Stabilization-restrict}} is ambigious. It says: "Auto-review restrictions". Does this mean:
# "automatically review the restrictions", or
# "restrictions on automatic reviews"?
Existing translations in various languages seem to disagree on this.
TIA – [[User:McDutchie|McDutchie]] 13:57, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
== Introductory pages - usability, layout, etc. ==
The introductory pages about {{SITENAME}} deserve few enhancements to their layout, which I want to suggest:
* Links to other languages appear ''below'' the navigation box, which is wasting space, and costs readers time to scroll. Better allow the box to appear at the very beginning, or else allow the page text to start before the box.
* The language box'es "header" subbox should be shrunk to the width needed, so as to allow the entire box to shrink a bit as well, so as to reduce the need of scrolling.
* Border styles of the three boxes could be made identical so as to give a nicer appearance.
* The "next step" box should be moved to, or duplicated at, the end of the page, since readers are usually at the end of a page when making a decision about where to read on. This avoids the need to scoll back.
* For convenience, a "previous step" link would not do harm in said box.
* The "next/previous step" box(es) should as well not be forced to appear below the general navigation box.
--[[User:Purodha|Purodha Blissenbach]] 09:27, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
== NOCC - Html and ==
[[File:Nocc filter.png|thumb|NOCC Filter preferences]]I believe {{msg-nocc|html_and}} should not be capitalized. Reasons: "and" usually appears between words in a sentence, not as an initial word of a sentence. {{msg-nocc|html or}} is not capitalzed either. --[[User:Purodha|Purodha Blissenbach]] 08:54, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
:Current usage is correct; it is used as 'And' for three filter fields. [[User_talk:Siebrand|Siebrand]] 17:19, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
::What a pity. Now I do not know how to translate it :-( I've no idea what an "'And' for three filter fields" may mean when translated. I there an URL where I can see it working? --[[User:Purodha|Purodha Blissenbach]] 20:18, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Nope. Need to get a screenshot of the NOCC filter preferences page, which is not available at the product screenshots page. [[User_talk:Siebrand|Siebrand]] 22:16, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
::::I requested a screenshot from a developer. [[User_talk:Siebrand|Siebrand]] 14:58, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::Screenshot added. Please update message documentation accordingly. [[User_talk:Siebrand|Siebrand]] 09:39, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::: Thank you, Siebrand. {{Done|[[:nocc:html and/qqq|Done]]}} --[[User:Purodha|Purodha Blissenbach]] 10:13, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
== Bogus "untranslated" ==
{{msg-mw|Lastmodifiedatby/ksh}} is corretly translated (imho) but shows up as untranslated. If you do not have the [[#translate_problems_filter_announcement_hash_67ac7b8d|announced filer]] in place, it is obviously because <code>ksh</code> used $4 which <code>en</code> does not need to. Otherwise, the filter has loopholes. Similar with {{msg-mw|Mainpagedocfooter/ksh}} but for another reason. I spare reporting similar instances until knowing that it is really helpful. --[[User:Purodha|Purodha Blissenbach]] 13:06, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
:Yes, we know. It is not the end of the world for now. [[User_talk:Siebrand|Siebrand]] 13:37, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
== {{msg-freecol|Model.player.continentalArmyMuster}} ==
{{msg-freecol|Model.player.continentalArmyMuster}} is horrific from an i18n view. This must be changed. [[User_talk:Siebrand|Siebrand]] 23:23, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
== MetaVid - mv_search_transcripts_for ==
Is {{msg-mw|mv_search_transcripts_for}} asking to
# ''search for videos'', that are good for $1,
# search ''inside'' videos for something called $1?
As to my understanding, several translations seem to disagree on that. --[[User:Purodha|Purodha Blissenbach]] 19:10, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
:Ungh. WHY do people translate if they do not have enough information to make a good translation? They should ask for more! – [[User:Nike|Nike]] 15:26, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
:: ''I mistranslate due to lacking informations, sometimes, because I simply did not catch possible ambiguities at first sight. :-(
:: ''Unfortunately, the less familiar you are with a language, the less you may identify ambiguities. Not all of us are really universally good at English, especially when it comes to peculiarities of specific technical terms, and the subjects matters of peculiar extensions, which, in turn, were not always authored by very good English speakers.
:: ''The less you know of the context in wich a message appears, the less you will be able to disambiguate it yourself. This includes spotting possible misinterpretations.
:: --[[User:Purodha|Purodha Blissenbach]] 13:32, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
== Translations at pt.wikibooks ==
Hi! I'm a contributor of pt.wikibooks and we want ([http://pt.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikibooks:Staff_lounge/Arquivo_22#Finalizar_tradu.C3.A7.C3.A3o:_Wikibooks_--.3E_Wikilivros] and [http://pt.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Wikibooks:Staff_lounge&oldid=127815#Finalizar_tradu.C3.A7.C3.A3o_.28continuando.29]) to finish the translation of some things that appear in the site:
# The site title (at en.wikipedia it is "Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia")
# The Project and Project_Talk namespaces
If I understood right, it is needed to make the following changes:
# [[:mw:Manual:$wgSitename|$wgSitename]]: "Wikibooks" --> "Wikilivros"
# [[:mw:Manual:$wgMetaNamespace|$wgMetaNamespace]]: "Wikibooks" --> "Wikilivros"
# [[:mw:Manual:$wgMetaNamespaceTalk|$wgMetaNamespaceTalk]]: "Wikibooks_Discussão" --> "Wikilivros_Discussão"
I was also looking at bugzilla, trying to know if this is the (only) things that is needed to make translation. I found just 3 similar bugs, for other Wikimedia projects: [[bugzilla:15237]], [[bugzilla:15829]] and [[bugzilla:16452]]. But I'm not sure yet about exactly what I need to ask there...
Besides this, I have another question: What happens to the pages that currently link to somithing like "Wikibooks:Page name" when the variables changes? Will we be able to use both namespace names ("Wikibooks" and "Wikilivros")? [[User:Heldergeovane|Helder]] 19:32, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
:Check the bugzilla issues that request creation of a new wiki. You should be able to fid everything you need to report there. [[User_talk:Siebrand|Siebrand]] 21:27, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
:: And if you want to make damn sure, its not forgotten, ask to have the current (and in the future: previous) namespacenames added as aliases - which means you do not have to alter pages, and users can continue typing what they were used to, without causing havoc. --[[User:Purodha|Purodha Blissenbach]] 00:55, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
== [[Special:Tags]] ==
{{msg-mw|tags-hitcount}} needs PLURAL support (see SpecialTags.php, line 65). --[[User:Mormegil|Mormegil]] 21:41, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
:{{done}} [[mwr:51437]]. [[User_talk:Siebrand|Siebrand]] 22:18, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
== Vector skin added? ==
It seems that new "Vector" skin has been added. I think we should be able to translate the skin name at [[Special:Preferences]] and possibly Vector.css and Vector.js. --[[User:Fryed-peach|fryed-peach]] 00:39, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
:{{done}} [[mwr:51451]]. [[User_talk:Siebrand|Siebrand]] 07:05, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
== Filepage-nofile-link ==
The link in {{msg-mw|Filepage-nofile-link}} will appear as an external link. To be fixed.--[[User:OsamaK|OsamaK]] 10:51, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
:No, it will not. [[User_talk:Siebrand|Siebrand]] 13:27, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
<source lang="php">
$wgOut->addHTML( '<div id="mw-imagepage-nofile" class="plainlinks">' . $nofile . '</div>' );
== PLURAL in Japanese ==
Is it possible to disable <nowiki>{{PLURAL:}} and {{GENDER:}}</nowiki> checks for Japanese? Japanese grammatically don't have plural forms and genders. --[[User:Fryed-peach|fryed-peach]] 08:47, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
:I will disable plural checks (although it may not yet work in translatewiki until Niklas can address this issue in his GSoC project). Gender checks cannot be suppressed yet. Just ignore it for now. [[User_talk:Siebrand|Siebrand]] 10:29, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
::Checks for Japanese have already been diabled in MediaWiki. The above still goes. [[User_talk:Siebrand|Siebrand]] 10:30, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Thanks, I'm looking forward to the achievement in his GSoC. --[[User:Fryed-peach|fryed-peach]] 15:05, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
== {{msg-mw|Editsimilar-thanks}} and {{msg-mw|Editsimilar-thanks-singleresult}} should be merged ==
These messages should be merged using PLURAL.
Same for {{msg-mw|Editsimilar-thanks-notsimilar}} and {{msg-mw|Editsimilar-thanks-notsimilar-singleresult}}.
[[User:EugeneZelenko|EugeneZelenko]] 13:35, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
:{{done}} [[mwr:51503]]. [[User_talk:Siebrand|Siebrand]] 15:48, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
== PLURAL in Korean ==
Please disable plural fuzzing in Korean. Thanks. [[User:Kwj2772|Kwj2772]] 08:13, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
:See above topic for Japanese. [[User_talk:Siebrand|Siebrand]] 11:17, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
== {{msg-mw|Configure-setting-wgRawHtml}} ==
It is not a good idea to place a <nowiki>{{int:}}</nowiki> inside from nowiki-tags, because the parserfunction will not be parsed. I think this is not the behaviour, you want. In my opinion the way in [[MediaWiki:Configure-setting-wgRawHtml/ksh|ksh]] is a good idea. [[User:Umherirrender|Der Umherirrende]] 10:02, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks! {{done}} with [[mwr:51565|revision 51565]]. --[[User:Purodha|Purodha Blissenbach]] 13:17, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
== {{msg-mw|Lqt-new-messages}} ==
Why adding an entity (&amp;#x2712;) instead of the character (✒)? Another problem is that this character is not defined in all fonts. I see a rectangle. [[User:Umherirrender|Der Umherirrende]] 10:06, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
:I've been wondering the same thing, but only made a mental note to ask the developer. Will report back. [[User_talk:Siebrand|Siebrand]] 15:13, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
== {{msg-mw|Currentrev-asof}} ==
Missing split of time and date for parameter 1. Thanks. [[User:Umherirrender|Der Umherirrende]] 11:06, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
:{{done}} in [[mwr:51536]]. Change also inspired me to do more in there than initially planned :) [[User_talk:Siebrand|Siebrand]] 15:11, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
==How to localize word "references"==
Undersigned would like to localise '''<nowiki><ref> </ref> and <references/> </nowiki>''' tags for Marathi language wiki projects '''<nowiki><ref> </ref></nowiki>''' to '''<nowiki><संदर्भ> </संदर्भ></nowiki>''' and '''<nowiki> <references/> </nowiki>''' to <संदर्भ/>
Please help me to know where and how do I do it ?
Thanks and Regards
[[User:Mahitgar|Mahitgar]] 09:49, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
:This is not possible. I suggest you create an issue in [[bugzilla:]] to request this. [[User_talk:Siebrand|Siebrand]] 10:00, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
== {{msg-mw|Revision-info}} and {{msg-mw|Revision-info-current}} ==
Both messages need a split of date and time for parameter 1. Thanks. [[User:Umherirrender|Der Umherirrende]] 11:02, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
== Liquid threads - MediaWiki:Lqt toc thread author ==
The message {{msg-mw|Lqt toc thread author}} should be using GENDER. --[[User:Purodha|Purodha Blissenbach]] 13:07, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
== FlaggedRevs ==
* If parameter $2 in {{msg-mw|revreview-basic}} is a date/time, it needs splitting. --[[User:Purodha|Purodha Blissenbach]] 13:55, 7 June 2009 (UTC) {{done}}: documented.
* If parameter $2 in {{msg-mw|revreview-basic-i}} is a date/time, it needs splitting. --[[User:Purodha|Purodha Blissenbach]] 14:03, 7 June 2009 (UTC) {{done}}: documented.
* {{msg-mw|revreview-basic-i}} needs to use PLURAL on "template/file change(s)" --[[User:Purodha|Purodha Blissenbach]] 14:03, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
* If parameter $2 in {{msg-mw|revreview-basic-old}} is a date/time, it needs to be split. --[[User:Purodha|Purodha Blissenbach]] 14:06, 7 June 2009 (UTC) {{done}}: documented.
* If parameter $2 in {{msg-mw|revreview-basic-same}} is a date/time, it needs to be split. --[[User:Purodha|Purodha Blissenbach]] 14:17, 7 June 2009 (UTC) {{done}}: documented.
:The parameter is a date in all message, without time:
<source lang=php>
# Get flags and date
$time = $wgLang->date( $frev->getTimestamp(), true );
:--[[User:Umherirrender|Der Umherirrende]] 17:14, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks, that is easy, added to the documentation (in the <code>qqq</code> messages). --[[User:Purodha|Purodha Blissenbach]] 23:07, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

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