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Add new language to translate

Hi! I created Portal:gum and want to add it to the translatable languages.

  • Language code: gum SIL, Ethnologue
  • Language name: Guambiano – Namtrik (gum)
  • Directionality: LTR
  • Fallback: Spanish
Sahaquiel9102 (talk)02:51, 25 February 2017

Renaming keys

I'd like to rename some keys we added to core, with the string userExpLevel. They accidentally do not fit the convention (which says, lower-case, no CamelCase). On master of MediaWiki core, the desired rename is:

rcfilters-filter-userExpLevel-newcomer-label => rcfilters-filter-user-experience-level-newcomer-label
rcfilters-filter-userExpLevel-newcomer-description => rcfilters-filter-user-experience-level-newcomer-description
rcfilters-filter-userExpLevel-learner-label => rcfilters-filter-user-experience-level-learner-label
rcfilters-filter-userExpLevel-learner-description => rcfilters-filter-user-experience-level-learner-description
rcfilters-filter-userExpLevel-experienced-label => rcfilters-filter-user-experience-level-experienced-label
rcfilters-filter-userExpLevel-experienced-description => rcfilters-filter-user-experience-level-experienced-description

Should I do it? If so, in all the files, or just en and qqq? Or is this something the TranslateWiki.net team could do?

Thank you.

Mattflaschen (talk)02:44, 18 February 2017

I confirm mw:Localisation#Changing existing messages: just go ahead. Thanks for caring.

Nemo (talk)08:49, 23 February 2017

Thank you. I wasn't sure if the same advice applied if it wasn't a "old translations are not suitable for the new meaning" situation.

Mattflaschen (talk)23:30, 23 February 2017
 
 

Please allow Bengali-India (bn-in) translations to be contributed for the projects on translatewiki.net

Hello, An Indian Bengali (language code: bn, country code: in) version of translations have been followed for most of the Desktop/Application projects like GNOME, KDE, XFCE, Mozilla and others and having one for the projects on translatewiki.net will help us maintain the consistency across the interfaces.

Thanks Runa

Runab (talk)05:42, 22 February 2013

I confirm I've read the request, and will grant it. There are some implications for MediaWiki's L10n that require a considerable amount of restructuring in the "bn" namespace. That's why it may take a while before I actually have the bandwidth to fix this.

Quick list of todos:

  1. Move all from /bn to /bn-BD in database
  2. Change all codes from bn to bn-BD in MediaWiki core and extensions
  3. Move core MessagesBn.php to MessagesBn_BD.php
  4. Add $fallback in MessagesBn.php to bn-BD
  5. Add bn-IN to MediaWiki, with $fallback to bn-BD
  6. Add blacklist on bn in twn settings
  7. Assess impact for other twn supported products and take appropriate action
  8. ...

All this needs to be done within as short a timespan as possible. All together I think it will take me about 4 hours.

Siebrand16:30, 12 March 2013
 

Runa, do you still think this is desirable?

Nemo (talk)12:43, 18 June 2016

I don't think it is necessary to create BN-BD or BN-IN for mediawikia. I am translating mediawiki in the last 4 years and i dont want this. I never seen any discussion about this in Wikipedia and we never need this. We should stay in BN.

Aftabuzzaman (talk)02:09, 23 February 2017
 
 

Notification options in Preferences

I think that notification options in user's preferences should be more clearly described (translated). I suppose it's kind of hard for an average user to figure it out what particular option actually means. Even with description behind the question mark I hardly know what the option is about. Is it possible to make it more "description (longer) way", like:

  • Someone leaves me a message on my talk page
  • Someone thanks me for my edit
  • Translations (what exactly is the purpose of this?)
  • Someone mentions me with a link to my user page
  • My mention of someone is not sended (for what reasons?)
  • My mention of someone is sended
  • Page link (what happens here?)
  • Someone reviews a page I've created (what does "review" means?)
  • Someone changes my user rights
  • Someone reverts my edit
  • Someone sends me an e-mail
  • Education Program
Janezdrilc (talk)21:41, 21 February 2017

So the tooltips next to the short name aren't enough? Clarifying the meaning of the messages in qqq is certainly useful; other than that, this is likely to be a controversial change and you should tell the developers directly.

Nemo (talk)09:13, 22 February 2017

Thanks, I sent it on phab:T158756.

Janezdrilc (talk)12:38, 22 February 2017
 
 

'mantis' to uppercase

A thread, Thread:Support/'mantis' to uppercase, was moved from here to Translating talk:MantisBT. This move was made by Nemo bis (talk | contribs) on 21 February 2017 at 11:46.

TimedMediaHandler - missing groups

MwEmbedModules/TimedText messages are not supported by translatewiki! They are not in groups and not updated. (don't know whether rest submodules of MwEmbedModules works)

Woytecr (talk)13:53, 2 January 2017

The group is missing some message documentation in its qqq files. The message documenation needs to be fixed/added first.

Der Umherirrende (talk)19:05, 16 January 2017

Really is this required? Who can do this?

Woytecr (talk)19:08, 16 January 2017

You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason:

The action you have requested is limited to users in the group: Users.


You can view and copy the source of this page.

Return to Thread:Support/TimedMediaHandler - missing groups/reply (3).

Per https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/299/ , @Paladox, Brion, and TheDJ:

Liuxinyu970226 (talk)02:17, 17 January 2017

Now added with gerrit:338520, waiting now for configuration change of translatewiki.net - gerrit:334504

Der Umherirrende (talk)18:27, 20 February 2017
 
 
 

There are other messages and message groups that are translateable here, but still lack documentation.

Without repo access you should be able to add documentation via translatewiki too once the message group is re-enabled here. E.g. it was done here recently.

Pikne08:23, 17 January 2017

Date Diff was added 09/2015 (gerrit:241034). One requirement of translatewiki.net is existing message documentation, I do not know, why this was not done here. Maybe the description message is not so important.

Der Umherirrende (talk)18:37, 20 February 2017
 
 
 

Autoconfirmed

On Project:Autoconfirmed_users it states that every new user on translatewiki is automatically an autoconfirmed user. As a new user even after being added to the "translator" group I can confirm this is not true. This means that either the page Project:Autoconfirmed_users is wrong or that MediaWiki is misconfigured. May somebody check this please?

Eddie (talk)15:24, 27 January 2017

The German translation is actually wrong/outdated. English text says your account needs to be 14 days old.

Matiia (talk)16:14, 16 February 2017
 

I want to enable Bodo language on translatewiki.net by the help of support page.

I wrote a discussion page on this support to enable the bodo language in transwiki.net because it's now disabled by transwiki. I want translate massages in Bodo language to create create the new Bodo Wikipedia. Bodo wikipedia is already eligible in incubator request page. Bodo wikipedia will be created after translating massagese, so iam here to translate massages but bodo langiage is disabled. But why, anyway please someone resolve the problem for bodo language in translatewiki and enable the language to translate.

Nijwmsa br (talk)11:11, 1 February 2017
Edited by author.
Last edit: 11:32, 2 February 2017

So:

  • A language code from ISO 639-3 or the Ethnologue website: brx
  • The language name in English and in its own language: Bodo – बर' (brx)
  • Is the language RTL or LTR: LTR
  • If the language is commonly written in more than one script, please say in which script the language should be enabled. Other variants can be enabled as and when translators for those variants volunteer. In Devanagari.
  • (For MediaWiki) Should the language fall back to another language other than English? If so which? No need.

You may need to answer the 4th and 5th questions

Liuxinyu970226 (talk)13:44, 1 February 2017

Language uses Devanagari script. So, language must enabled in devanagi script , if you don't believe then go to the incubator project of bodo wikipedia. If you have another important question then ask.

Nijwmsa br (talk)14:26, 1 February 2017

Thanks. Devanagari is ok. Are people who know Bodo also likely to understand Assamese? (Assamese is the official language of the state where Bodo is most spoken according to w:Bodo language and w:Assam?)

Nemo (talk)16:25, 1 February 2017

Assamese is the official language of Assam and Both Bengali and Bodo are co-official. Bengali is most spoken in barak valley and Bodo is most spoken in four districts of Assam, which is called as BTC, Bodoland, BTAD. Bodoland is autonomous counci. So, Bodo is Official language of Bodoland and many bodo people knows Assamese , Bengali .But, What is problem in official, why you're talking about Assamese?

Nijwmsa br (talk)16:47, 1 February 2017

Well, to be not tricky, do you want to:

  • Fallback to Assamese? or
  • Fallback to Bengali? or
  • Just show English

If a random message has (temporary) no Bodo translation available.

Liuxinyu970226 (talk)10:40, 2 February 2017
 

Is anybody working on this issue ?

Nijwmsa br (talk)09:02, 3 February 2017
Edited by author.
Last edit: 15:11, 15 February 2017

The only thing that you can do, after providing the necessary information, is wait, your request is not only one pending new language request.

AFAIW, there are also:

So it's likely that you have to wait for half years to 3 years.

Liuxinyu970226 (talk)02:08, 5 February 2017
 
 
 
 
 

About offline translating.

I apologise for taking your time, please answer my question. I want to translate in offline, but I don't know how to be an offline translator. I want to know how to be an offline translator. I'll appreciate it if you would answer my question.

S.J.H. (talk)01:59, 14 February 2017

Translating:Offline has the answer.

Nemo (talk)06:13, 14 February 2017

Thank you for answering my question. I read Translating:Offline article, but I have a question. If you have the time to answer, plaese let me know how to make a request for 'Offline Translator Rights'. Thank you.

S.J.H. (talk)01:30, 15 February 2017

The page I linked already answers your question. Please email your translations first, so that they can be imported and checked by a staffer. For the future, we can then flag you.

Nemo (talk)08:40, 15 February 2017
 
 
 

Please open Blockly item for Chinese translation

the Blockly project can be visited on https://developers.google.cn/blockly/ in China.

Yiwei (talk)05:21, 12 February 2017

Hey, but that's already available, although there's a problem that about Blockly:PROCEDURES_CALLRETURN_HELPURL/zh-hans which cannot be safely updated.

Liuxinyu970226 (talk)13:02, 12 February 2017
 

User name change request

Please change my user name into "wmr", please.

Wmr89502270 (talk)10:45, 12 February 2017

Using alternative date/time params $2, $3 leads to warning

In cases where a date/time parameter $1 is used, alternative date $2 and time $3 parameters may be given in message documentation suggesting that these two parameters can be used instead of the combined one, in languages that need to split date and time, such as Greek.

But editor doesn't seem to recognise that $2 and $3 together are legitimate substitutes of $1, leading to an edit warning and a fuzzybot edit.

See example message MediaWiki:Userrights-expiry-current/el screenshot:

Screenshot of date params edit warning in translatewiki.net.png

Protnet (talk)09:50, 7 February 2017

Wow I don't miss LiquidThreads :)

MediaWiki:Editinguser/tyv is an outdated copy of the English string. Could a sysop please just delete it? We don't appear to have active translators in this language.

This, that and the other (talk)04:46, 28 January 2017

The message is already fuzzied, what do you hope to achieve by deleting it?

Nemo (talk)08:54, 28 January 2017

It's appearing in the tyv.json file in MediaWiki, which isn't normal for fuzzy messages, as far as I am aware.

This, that and the other (talk)02:05, 4 February 2017

Wondering if @Agilight: can help on it?

Liuxinyu970226 (talk)03:27, 4 February 2017
 
 
 

Bodo language

Why language is not yet enabled ?

Nijwmsa br (talk)00:59, 3 February 2017

Please don't create more threads.

Nemo (talk)07:42, 3 February 2017
 

MediaWiki:Globalusage/en should be split in two messages

This message is used in two places: as a section heading on a file description page (for example, see this) and as a page title in Special:GlobalUsage. In English, the text "Global file usage" is suitable for both places, but this does not happen in other languages, like in Portuguese. Each of the two Portuguese variants have chosen a version that is good for only one of those cases. The European Portuguese version (MediaWiki:Globalusage/pt) has "Utilização global de um ficheiro", which means "Global usage of a file", and is suitable only for the special page. The Brazilian Portuguese version (MediaWiki:Globalusage/pt-br) has "Uso global do arquivo", which means "Global usage of this file", and is suitable only for the section on the description page.

It would be good if there were two distinct messages: one for the heading on the file description page and one for the special page title.

Opraco (talk)13:18, 22 December 2016

Either there's already another report, or you are feel free to request at Phabricator.

Liuxinyu970226 (talk)04:49, 1 February 2017
 
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