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Thread titleRepliesLast modified
Delete empty qqq pages222:49, 26 September 2019
User name change User:Ece Alpdeniz --> User:AliceJ016:37, 20 September 2019
Protected edit request503:27, 19 September 2019
Offline translator rights516:07, 18 September 2019
Where to indicate language-specific conventions or preferences?020:28, 17 September 2019
A grammatical doubt114:54, 12 September 2019
Change username214:23, 11 September 2019
Delete account414:22, 11 September 2019
Template:Delete and others501:51, 5 September 2019
Problem about MediaWiki:Mwe-upwiz-tooltip-title and Wikimedia:Commons-android-strings-title info214:10, 4 September 2019
Japanese translation of MediaWiki:Permalink/en110:04, 4 September 2019
Account deletion209:05, 4 September 2019
LibreMesh typo? 'software' or 'softwrae'108:24, 4 September 2019
EOL:Devise-devise.failure.locked/en108:23, 4 September 2019
Wikia's Translate Support209:34, 2 September 2019
Add Examknow/GlobalCheckUser to translatewiki116:40, 27 August 2019
Username change request116:42, 26 August 2019
Incorrect translations004:19, 26 August 2019
Bad translation504:50, 22 August 2019
User:Obaid_Raza/vector.css418:48, 20 August 2019
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Delete empty qqq pages

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Last edit: 22:49, 26 September 2019
Tobi 406 (talk)20:50, 18 September 2019

The /qqq pages are intended to provide help to translators, such as listing other resources with similar terms, giving hint about usage (when the English resource alone is ambiguous, such as lack of distinction between nouns and verbs, or the too frequent overuse of Capitalization in English where other languages have more restrictions, based on meaning or usage in sentences). They may convey pointers to check the usage in the application, or with related separately separated resources, or give hints about what will be in replaced placeholders. There may also be warnings, such as terms probably left untranslated (except if needed for transliteration of the Latin script, notably brand names that are still derivable grammatically in some languages; some brands may also have dedicated adaptations for some languages, e.g. "Wikipedia", with the adapted name chosen in a separate process that may need to be documented in qqq pages). So the /qqq pages are not specific to any language, they are usually written in English (sometimes they include some autotranslated templates for generic hints). For some projects, there may exist a terminologic list that should be checked (to help increase the coherency). But they have nothing to do with specific languages like "de"... The "/qqq" pages are helpful and can be recreated at any time even if some hints are removed (because they were temporary). If you are multilingual or can read/understand other languages, check how resources are translated, because you can detect cases that were tested and corrected in other languages and this gives hints about what to do (English alone is ferquently not enough). If there are talks somewhere about terminologic choices, these "/qqq" pages should not be cleared. If a problem was found in a language, and then fixed for that language, it's likely a problem also in other languages and keeping the issue doucmented is helpful. It also provides feedback to developers (even if they often request to post a bug report in a bug tracker like Phabricator or in the Support request pages: post the link to the bug report and its talks and resolution, keep it even if it's resolved). Deleting a page will just make the history invisible, and if it is recreated, the history is lost. An empty page anyway does not cost anything more in the server. Translatewiki.net otherwise is not a development platform for the supported software to translate. That's the role of "/qqq" pages to post any such reports and hints that will help translators to other languages still lacking proper translation: this avoids long searches and repeated corrections later after testing the result (which will not be used immediately but integrated progressively).

But NEVER use the "/qqq" page for making any actual translation, these are not junk "test' pages, but are like what documentation pages are for templates.

Verdy p (talk)19:11, 20 September 2019
 

Done Done Deleted all but two where other users have added content in the meantime.

Jon Harald Søby (talk)14:13, 23 September 2019
 

Protected edit request

Please enter the translation for the following message. I do not have permission to edit it.

MediaWiki:Copyright/gom-deva

मजकूर $1 हाच्या खाला उपलब्ध आसा खेरीज हेर नोंदी केल्या शिवाय.

The Discoverer (talk)16:06, 10 September 2019

Messages in the "Mediawiki:" namespace are not editable except by admins. You have to locate the messages in the translatable space, where they can be vetted and will later be imported into the "Mediawiki:" namespace by authorized bots. Also you use a final dot in the sentence, instead of the danda standard...

Verdy p (talk)16:52, 10 September 2019

In the past I have put requests in the support page for such translations, and admins have entered it for me. For example: here. Nevertheless, please let me know where I can save the message for vetting.

Regarding the final dot, you must be aware that unlike Hindi, in languages like Marathi and Konkani, it is usual to use a dot for the end of a sentence and not a danda. Take a look at some articles in these languages, and you will see that the danda is not used, e.g.:

https://mr.wikipedia.org/wiki/दुसरे_महायुद्ध

https://gom.wikipedia.org/wiki/उदक

The Discoverer (talk)05:42, 11 September 2019
 

Nike or Nemo bis, please could you help save this message? I do not have permissions because it involves CSS/JS/JSON .

The Discoverer (talk)06:00, 18 September 2019

Done, thank you for your contribution.

Regards,

Abijeet Patro (talk)18:17, 18 September 2019

Thank you :)

The Discoverer (talk)03:27, 19 September 2019
 
 
 

Offline translator rights

Hello. It's still possible to get "Offline translator" group described on Translating:Offline page?

Thank you,

Rail (my talk | contribs)06:42, 7 September 2019

Yes. Can you briefly state what you'd do and why you need to work offline? Thanks for your translations.

Nemo (talk)06:47, 7 September 2019

Sometimes I want to work on my localhost MediaWiki installation to make sure that context of my translations is correct and then submit all of the work in a batch, so offline translator rights would help me do that easier I guess.

Rail (my talk | contribs)06:53, 7 September 2019

There might be a misunderstanding: the offline translating work doesn't let you import messages from another wiki. You need to use a PO editor, so if you translate first on your local wiki you might as well just copy and paste your translations directly into Special:Translate here.

Just to make sure, are you aware of Special:SearchTranslations? That can help you find a string that needs to be translated. So you could do your local testing with the translations which are currently in MediaWiki code, identify the missing translations in their context and then find them here, input your translation into Special:Translate.

Nemo (talk)07:06, 7 September 2019
 

Hi Rail, did you manage to verify the context for your translations as you desired?

Nemo (talk)20:09, 17 September 2019

Sorry, I forgot to answer to this topic. It looks like I need to create my own tools rather than using offline translations feature. Never mind, thank you ^^

Rail (my talk | contribs)16:07, 18 September 2019
 
 
 
 

Where to indicate language-specific conventions or preferences?

A thread, Thread:Support/Where to indicate language-specific conventions or preferences?, was moved from here to Translating talk:INaturalist. This move was made by Nemo bis (talk | contribs) on 17 September 2019 at 20:28.

A grammatical doubt

Please refer this link. In that, I would like to know whether the word 'have' needs to be inserted in between the words 'you' and 'registered'. I think without that, there is some sort of grammatical error.

Adithyak1997 (talk)14:48, 12 September 2019

I don't think this blocks translations. But if it is corrected in English, the new version should not be marked to invalidate the existing ones. Overwise we'll just need to reconfirm again the existing translation. Using the preterit and not the compound past seems correct here; it's not gramamtically incorrect, and semantically the preterit is usable with the intent, as the registration in the message is still valid and not terminated (otherwise that message would not apply as one would have to register again a new account).

Verdy p (talk)14:54, 12 September 2019
 

Change username

I want to change my username to 'Iváns'

Navhy (talk)07:52, 2 September 2019

Done. :-)

Jon Harald Søby (talk)07:28, 4 September 2019

Many thanks

Iváns (talk)14:23, 11 September 2019
 
 

Delete account

How do I delete my account? I can't find it anywhere. I want to change the username!

Navhy (talk)07:52, 2 September 2019

You can request your current user name to be changed.

Nike (talk)08:00, 2 September 2019

I want to change my username to 'Iváns'.

Navhy (talk)09:40, 2 September 2019

Done. :-)

Jon Harald Søby (talk)07:27, 4 September 2019

Many thanks

Iváns (talk)14:22, 11 September 2019
 
 
 
 

Template:Delete and others

I see some people have copied some templates from English Wikipedia here. I am not following this process – all requests should be made here on this Support page.

If someone wants to change the process, I am not opposed, but that should be done properly by adding that to Succession_plan#Translator_liaison, for example, and picking up on that role :)

Nike (talk)08:28, 5 March 2018

Nike, sorry but what are you talking about?

Hamilton Abreu (talk)19:15, 5 March 2018

Which part is unclear? :)

I am just trying to set expectations.

Nike (talk)19:19, 5 March 2018

Thanks.

Hamilton Abreu (talk)14:43, 6 March 2018
 
 

Nike, do you mean @Verdy p:?

Liuxinyu970226 (talk)01:02, 8 March 2018

I was not notified, and discover this discussion, but I don't understand why I'm cited, given that I don't even understand what this topic is about, what is the problem, or if there's even any reply expected. The initial topic speaks about "someone" (who?) copying some templates (which? and does it cause some problem?) and about a "process" (without more details to link it with the "Support page"). And finally why Liuxinyu cites me at end ?

Verdy p (talk)01:51, 5 September 2019
 
 

Problem about MediaWiki:Mwe-upwiz-tooltip-title and Wikimedia:Commons-android-strings-title info

MediaWiki:Mwe-upwiz-tooltip-title/en and Wikimedia:Commons-android-strings-title info/en say that filenames should contain spaces. That means a filename should contains more than one words on Wikimedia Commons. But written forms of some languages, such as Chinese and Japanese, don't use spaces at all.(Files can be named in any language on Commons. See https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Language_policy .) However, the translations in these languages still mention "spaces" ("空格" in Chinese and "空白" in Japanese).

神樂坂秀吉 (talk)14:43, 23 August 2019

The message doesn't say that filenames should contain spaces. It says: "You may use plain language with spaces". This means that you are allowed to use spaces if you want, but you don't have to do it.

Does this help? Or do you think that the English message should be changed?

Amir E. Aharoni (talk)10:07, 4 September 2019

What it means is that you should use plain readable spaces (not URL-encoded as "+" or " " or replaced by underscores) as appropriate for the normal rendering in the target orthography (for some languages, some non-ASCII spaces may be needed, including in Chinese sometimes where it could be an ideographic space, i.e. double-width, or thin spaces, and sometimes non-breaking, or zero-width spaces needed in some South-Asian scripts to separate words and avoid rendering ligatures or clusters, even if that space seems invisible but is still visible by the absence of ligation and a clear separation between the trailing or isolated form of the final letter form of the first word and the leading or isolated form of the 1st letter of the next word). As well, it may be needed to add joiner controls in some Southeastern Asian languages. In summary: use the best accurate orthography without any technical encoding. That message is still useful in Chinese because it may be displayed in the UI language of the translation tool itself, while the translation to provide is in another target language (and China has many languages from many very different families, and written using various scripts, not just Han sinograms and Han typographic rules based on fixed-width cells: even some Sinitic languages may be normally written in Latin, Cyrillic, Arabic, Tibetan scripts, or other Lolo-Burmese and Indo-Aryan scripts in their standard orthography; there are also Semitic languages, Italic languages, Germanic languages, Turkic languages, Korean; each language has its own orthographic behavior, almost all countries are multilingual even if there's a dominant language or a "normative" standard form which is still not universal; and various languages that were considered extinct, are also resurrecting with increased communication between communities spread now worldwide that want to restore their culture, and it's possible to do that now with the Internet, even in absence of support on national or regional medias).

Verdy p (talk)14:10, 4 September 2019
 
 

The content of MediaWiki:Permalink/en is the same as the content of MediaWiki:Minerva-page-actions-permalink/en (Permanent link). The Japanese translation of MediaWiki:Minerva-page-actions-permalink/en (MediaWiki:Minerva-page-actions-permalink/ja) is "固定リンク". Why the Japanese translation of MediaWiki:Permalink/en (MediaWiki:Permalink/ja) is "この版への固定リンク" (Permanent link to this revision)?

神樂坂秀吉 (talk)13:24, 23 August 2019

I don't know Japanese and I cannot fully answer this myself.

I can say this, however: It's quite common that messages have the same content in English as other messages, and this is OK. This is useful because quite often they have to be translated differently to other languages, although sometimes they are the same is other languages.

It's up to you and other people who know Japanese and use Wikipedia and other MediaWiki site in Japanese to decide whether they should be the same or different in Japanese. If you are not sure yourself, you should consult with other people who know Japanese. If you decide that they should be the same, just change them.

Amir E. Aharoni (talk)10:04, 4 September 2019
 

Account deletion

Hello again. It's been about 4 years, and my account has only ever been used shortly after its creation and never afterwards. If possible, I would like the account to be deleted. Thanks.

TheIsraeliSudrian (talk) (talk)13:49, 26 August 2019

Hello,

I will wait for a day and then delete your account tomorrow.

Regards,

Abijeet Patro (talk)16:11, 27 August 2019
 

Hello,

MediaWiki core does not support account deletion. Even if we do block you, or remove you from the translator group, your contributions will remain.

It would be good to know what your motivations are for wanting this account to be deleted.

If there is no specific reason other than to get rid of an unused account, I'd say we remove you from the translator group and leave the account as is.

Regards,

Abijeet Patro (talk)09:05, 4 September 2019
 

LibreMesh typo? 'software' or 'softwrae'

A Chinese Wikipedian (talk)02:32, 7 December 2018

Thanks for reporting this. I've created an issue on their issue tracker - https://github.com/LibreRouterOrg/docs/issues/32

Regards,

Abijeet Patro (talk)08:17, 4 September 2019
 

EOL:Devise-devise.failure.locked/en

EOL:Devise-devise.failure.locked/en Is it spell error and it should be "again"?

A Chinese Wikipedian (talk)06:36, 4 September 2019

Submitted a patch to fix this - https://github.com/EOL/eol_website/pull/40

Regards,

Abijeet Patro (talk)08:23, 4 September 2019
 

Wikia's Translate Support

I am trying to translate Fandom (aka Wikia). when I have translated them, are the systems going to add it automatically?

BaRaN6161 TURK (talk)10:54, 1 September 2019

We do not have any Wikia specific translations here anymore. For generic MediaWiki and extension translations, my understanding is that it can take a while (multiple years) for them to appear there. They seem to still be using MediaWiki 1.19.24 from 2015.

Nike (talk)08:18, 2 September 2019

I get it thanks.

BaRaN6161 TURK (talk)09:34, 2 September 2019
 
 

Add Examknow/GlobalCheckUser to translatewiki

Hello, Could someone please come and help add this to translatewiki. The bot should have access. Thanks,

RhinosF1 (talk)21:53, 26 August 2019
 

Username change request

Could I requset a username change to 予弦, please? Thanks.

神樂坂秀吉 (talk)04:53, 22 August 2019

Done!

Regards,

Abijeet Patro (talk)16:42, 26 August 2019
 

Bad translation

The user User:神樂坂秀吉 inserted bad Japanese(ja) translations without knowledge of the language.

Is there a way to revert those edits?

Shirayuki (talk)02:06, 15 July 2019

Hi Shirayuki

Thanks for reporting this. I've either rolled back the user's translations or marked them as fuzzy.

I see that you've left a message on his talk page, I've also done the same.

Please let us know if this continue and we will take necessary action.

Regards,

Abijeet Patro (talk)14:06, 18 July 2019

Thanks, but the user inserted bad translations again :(

Shirayuki (talk)07:32, 12 August 2019

Marked the translations as fuzzy, and have given them a final warning. Thank you for bringing this to our notice.

Abijeet Patro (talk)11:56, 14 August 2019

Sorry. I will not do that again.

神樂坂秀吉 (talk)04:50, 22 August 2019
 

Sorry. I will not do that again.

神樂坂秀吉 (talk)04:50, 22 August 2019
 
 
 
 

I need the help of an interface admin to remove the "location" template from the mentioned page. Thanks and cheers

[[kgh]] (talk)23:14, 7 March 2019

Anybody?

[[kgh]] (talk)22:34, 16 March 2019

I am sure we have interface admins here. Thanks for your time.

[[kgh]] (talk)21:17, 19 August 2019

Done!

Regards,

Abijeet Patro (talk)17:14, 20 August 2019

Cool, thanks a ton!

[[kgh]] (talk)18:48, 20 August 2019
 
 
 
 
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