Language fallback to Spanish (es)

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"similar to the recent change in Belarusian-language wikis by which the fallback to Russian was removed" That's Ukranian, not Belarusian, see phab:T39314

Liuxinyu970226 (talk)00:29, 1 January 2017

10% of Basque don't speak spanish but 100% of them studied english as a second language. Besides, I prefere to have as a reference the source language much more than another translated one. Therefore, I thing that matching a small language with his dominant language (spanish/french), it's not a good idea for the development of the small one. -Sator (talk) 23:23, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Sator (talk)23:23, 1 January 2017

Can you mention a source for these numbers?

Nemo (talk)08:00, 2 January 2017
Sator (talk)00:38, 3 January 2017

Thanks, that's useful. You mean the 14,7 % for "Elebidun hartzaileak"? What does the term mean?

Now what makes you think that the people knowing English are more than 85 %?

Nemo (talk)07:33, 3 January 2017

Even if those numbers where made up numbers (I don't mean they are). I think is more likely for a Basque/French speaking user to be fluent in English than in Spanish, so I agree that Spanish should not be the fallback language.

Arraintxo (talk)09:58, 5 January 2017

I'm sorry but it's extremely unlikely that more than 85 % of the inhabitants knows English. The average for Spain is 24 % and for France 39 %.

Nemo (talk)10:15, 5 January 2017

This is not about inhabitants, but about users. And basque language users don't use Wikimedia projects because they don't know spanish/french, but because they want to use it in Basque. So if something is not in Basque language they will [politically, socially, technically] understand having it in English better than reading it in Spanish/French. If they wanted to have sentences in Spanish they would read in Spanish in first order, as most of them know the language.

Theklan (talk)09:32, 28 May 2017

Presumably the wikis exist to get more users from people/inhabitants, no?

Nemo (talk)12:29, 31 May 2017