Last edit: 13:21, 14 November 2021
Hi, I was wondering if someone could add these 5 Pacific languages. I requested it a while a go and I filled in all the required details including some web links, but I feel like my request was forgotten. The languages are:
- Eastern Arrernte (Portal:aer, Arrernte Ikngerre),
- Pitjantjatjara (Portal:pjt, Pitjantjatjara),
- Australian Kriol (Portal:rop, Ropa Riba Kriol),
- Torres Strait Creole (Portal:tcs, Yumplatok) and
- Drehu (Portal:dhv, Drehu).
Also, could you label Rapa Nui (because it's native to Easter Island, currently only labelled under "America"), Indonesian (because all the other Indonesian languages are labelled under both "Pacific" and "Asia") and Chinese (currently only labelled under "Asia", but should be labelled under "Pacific" too because of the large number of w:Chinese Australians and w:Chinese New Zealanders) as Pacific languages as well as their existing labels (they're already on the site). Also, Fiji Hindi (not to be confused with Hindi, spoken in most of central-northern India) should only be labelled under "Pacific" not "Pacific" and "Asia" because nobody in India/Asia speaks it. Thanks. Edit: Also could you add support for all languages in Category:Languages of Australia
About the first part, I replied in the original request. You haven't answered an important question there.
About Rapa Nui, Indonesia, and Chinese: I submitted a patch to fix it.
About Fiji Hindi: I actually know people in Asia who do speak it :)
About adding all the languages in "Category:Languages of Australia": As with the first part, I'll be happy to add them when people who know them and actually plan to translate into them come here and ask for it.˛
I plan to translate into all of the original languages and I know a user who would be willing to help. And about the Fiji Hindi, sorry I didn't know it was used in Asia too. I thought someone confused it with the Indian Hindi. So, back to the main part, yes I and other people would be willing to translate into them. I hope this helps and I look forward to translating into them soon. When they are added, could you please reply to this thread so I know? Thanks.
Can the people please create their own accounts and contribute directly? Your own user page says that your level in these languages is 1 or 2, and it's not quite right that someone who knows so little of the language writes in it. There already is an unfortunate history of people who had good intentions, wrote in a language they don't know well in Wikipedia, and caused confusion and harm.
I know people with accounts who would be willing to translate into these languages. For some of these languages I get info from online dictionaries (e.g for Arrernte I get most of the info from here). I still would like these languages and I hope this is done soon. Thanks.
Could someone please do this for me? I've been waiting a while. Thanks.
The written policy, as it appears at Translatewiki.net languages, is that there should be at least one person willing to translate into the language. To be able to translate into the language, one actually has to know the language. Just getting info from dictionaries is not enough. Most messages here are whole sentences, so you need to know syntax, morphology, etc. Can you ask the people who actually know the languages come here and ask for this themselves?
I'm sorry if it looks like I'm trying to make it hard for indigenous, underprivileged languages to get on board. The opposite is true: I am happy to add any language, including very small and endangered ones, but the experience is that simply enabling languages without having someone who knows them well does more harm than good.
Okay, I know a fair bit of Kriol and Torres Strait Creole so I will translate into that and I know that User:Osiris knows some Pitjantjatjara and Arrernte. I don't know if anyone here knows Drehu so you can skip that one if you like. But otherwise could you please add them? I know Noongar is enabled on here and it is almost extinct (Arrernte has 4,500 native speakers, Pitjantjatjara has over 3,000 and Noongar has only 400) and I know that you can't add languages nobody speaks/wants to translate into (I 100% get that, I mean if a language has under 300 fluent speakers you probably shouldn't add it). Thanks. PS: Also Torres Strait Creole should fall back to Tok Pisin and English because it is most related to Tok Pisin. Thanks. 😀