Translate bug: Misidentifies which version of /en message is the latest

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Translate bug: Misidentifies which version of /en message is the latest

The translation interface is misidentifying which version of an /en message is the latest.

The original message MediaWiki:Interfaceadmin-info/en was changed, as follows:

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The change was presented by the translation interface, and the /pt translation was updated accordingly, as follows:

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Now, after this update, the translation interface seems to be misidentifying which version of the /en message is the latest, compares the new /pt translation to the old /en message, identifies three errors in the new /pt translation and requests translation back to the original version of the /en message:

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I have purged the translation statistics page, and the problem continues.

Do you want to verify first if this is due to something local, or should it be reported in Phabricator?

Hamilton Abreu (talk)09:01, 2 September 2018

Here's something even funnier about this.

This single message is listed as belonging to two groups: "MediaWiki core" and the extension "Wikimedia Overrides":

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It's the same message being listed in both groups.

That in itself is probably incorrect, right? No message can belong to core and to an extension, I believe.

Now, the situation reported above was for the first time the message is listed, under the first group, "MediaWiki core". If we go to the second time it is listed, under the group "Wikimedia Overrides", this is shown:

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So, here, the /en content shown that is to be translated is the correct one: the new version of the /en message. This is the correct text.

But, the three errors reported are the same as previously: those that result from a comparison with the old /en message instead of the new /en message that is being presented.

Hamilton Abreu (talk)12:17, 2 September 2018

The other one is now prefixed with 'wmf-' and this should be resolved.

Nike (talk)07:21, 3 September 2018

Can you please re-check? The situation as I see it is still exactly as reported.

There are indeed three messages starting with 'wmf-' in three languages but none of them is English.

Hamilton Abreu (talk)13:09, 4 September 2018

Sorry I was too hasty. It should really be fixed now.

Nike (talk)07:21, 7 September 2018

Sorry to report that the situation we have now is:

  1. For the original messages with name MediaWiki:Interfaceadmin-info/XX, the old, outdated, revision of MediaWiki:Interfaceadmin-info/en is being presented for translation instead of the latest revision. This remains as reported initially, and that is wrong.
  2. Five new messages have been imported with the name MediaWiki:Wmf-interfaceadmin-info/XX. These should probably be deleted.
  3. Several new messages have been imported with the name MediaWiki:Wikimedia-interfaceadmin-info/XX. As far as I can see, these have been appropriately fuzzied and should all be correct.
Hamilton Abreu (talk)18:49, 7 September 2018

1. Umm, that should fix itself if they are updated (e.g. fuzzy and unfuzzy) 2. We don't really bother deleting unused messages unless they are in the way 3. Ok.

Nike (talk)19:04, 7 September 2018

Just to make sure we are in synch, please confirm that you are aware that all existing translations of MediaWiki:Interfaceadmin-info/en are incorrect.

Hamilton Abreu (talk)12:55, 10 September 2018

I fuzzied them all. I don't know what else I could do.

Nike (talk)15:23, 10 September 2018

Maybe some random edit of MediaWiki:Interfaceadmin-info/en followed by its undo, could force Translate to present the latest revision for translation?

Hamilton Abreu (talk)18:10, 10 September 2018

Hmmm... the /en message was fuzzied also.

Hamilton Abreu (talk)18:12, 10 September 2018

Could you please remove "!!FUZZY!!" from MediaWiki:Interfaceadmin-info/en and save?

Maybe this edit will finally cause the software to identify correctly the version of this message that should be translated.

Hamilton Abreu (talk)09:16, 25 November 2018


Hamilton Abreu (talk)23:23, 11 December 2018