Discuss the future of Intuition

CLOSED This issue is closed by Krinkle

Pinging both @Zhuyifei1999: and @Krinkle: as this can affect the whole Toolforge tools about their i18n methods. (And you two can point me what wrong I have in this thread).

Per phab:T172065, loading asserts from non-Wikimedia providers are discouraged, not surprise, translatewiki.net is also under non-Wikimedia criteria. So in theory we should try replacing

https://tools.wmflabs.org/intuition/: https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:TranslationStats&graphit=1&count=edits&scale=months&days=250&width=520&height=400&group=tsint-0-all

(from phab:P5825) to a Wikimedia provided assert.

However, I am not sure how such "replacing" could be possible, since twn hosts a lot of messages that from Wikimedia umbrella.

And another however, I am now confused with the de facto status of messages world:

• CitationHunt: Use its own messages group
• CopyPatrol: own
• crosswatch: own
• GapFinder (a Cloud VPS project): own
• IA Upload: own
• InternetArchiveBot: own
• Pageviews: own
• video2commons: own
• Programs & Events Dashboard, uses Translating:Wiki_Ed_Dashboard: own
• XTools: Nowadays own

I believe that all of projects above are having hate-to-be-dynamic l10ned interfaces, and with doing compare with de facto 27 Intuition projects:

• DCAT-AP (UFO?)
• Global user contributions (a tool that wasted me 16 minutes to load full datas, ha?!)
• Catdown (still a "Toolserver tool"?!)
• CommonsHelper 2 (Four hundred and four!)
• Cvn Overlay (a good day for me that I must download-install-configure before loading necessary datas, hehe)
• Intuition - General (it self)
• GetWikiAPI (Why this so-called l10n is "still needed" even we have translatable api.php...)
• Grep (maybe good, but what's the reason that we can't merge "Language:" and "Project:" fields to a single [language code box].[project box].org?!)
• Intuition - Intuition - Core (it self, and we may say a lot of "Intuition - Intuition - ..." prefixes...)
• Jarry (list of tools...)
• Krinkle (I would give my concern to see how this can't move to Cloud VPS)
• Mwsnapshots (hmm, what's the reason that this can't just be provided by a Special page of MediaWiki.org? We can just download extensions and skins here)
• Persönliche Bekanntschaften (if only dewiki use it, then why l10n is needed)
• Real-Time Recent Changes (although there's still client users, I strongly recommond to let em migrate to use New filters for edit review which may also make RC dynamically)
• SVG Translate (So Jarry1250, what's your status of TranslateSvg extension?)
• Template transclusion check (a WP only tool, umm...)
• Templatecount (per above)
• Toolserver status (is just shutted down, isn't that?)
• Ts Reports (not very user friendly for me)
• Intuition - User Dashboard (it self)
• Voiceintro (how to use it on an Ultrabook?)
• What leaves here (another download-install-configure?)
• Wikiviewstats (No webservice)
• Monuments API (times for my Ultrabook to load it: 32 minutes)
• OrphanTalk (suitable for next splitting?)
• Raun (a Trump-styled sentense: A man v*conved his covfefe from Nambia to Toolgorfe)
• reFill (too hard to judge what can be translated, and what cannot)

So since the migration of XTools l10n, even there's a little possible that that "replacing" is possible, I would also ask that, what's the benefit of it?

I would ask a better solution that better than daydream replacement. Or maybe and somewhat sadly, we should consider abandoning the entire Intuition, and split all of those l10n messages to "Wikimedia:XXX..."

I'm marking this old thread as resolved.

For the record - I believe this was the result of of a misundertanding. The information at P5825, was posted by zhuyifei1999 there in 2017. These are not all about Intuition or translatewiki.

Only 1 line concerns translatewiki.net or Intution, and that is the line you quoted:

https://tools.wmflabs.org/intuition/: https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:TranslationStats&graphit=1&count=edits&scale=months&days=250&width=520&height=400&group=tsint-0-all

This means that the documentation portal for Intuition at https://intuition.toolforge.org/#tab-about, was including a little image with a graph from translatewiki.net.

It does not affect any tool on Toolforge that uses Intuition to localise itself. I have removed the image in this commit, which removed the warning from the About page.