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Red hot chili peppers? Meaning: please provide some context what this is.

Nike (talk)09:20, 13 May 2013

Added to qqq (for this and several others like it):

"Hotlist pages are pages that EOL determines have deficient quality for the frequency with which they are viewed, and thus curators are encouraged to add content to them."

Jrice (talk)19:42, 17 June 2013

Can have context?

Nike (talk)06:22, 17 February 2013

None of the "Database" entries truly have a context, because they are pulled from the database (!) onto the pages as needed.

In this particular set (translated ranks), what you're translating is what biologists call a "rank," ie: Kingdom, Phylum, Order, Species, etc. This particular term (forma) is used by botanists, for example broccoli and cabbage are two different "forma" of a single species (believe it or not). Wikipedia says it well enough:

Jrice (talk)19:05, 22 April 2013

This is the sort of context needed. :) I've added it to EOL:Database-translated ranks-label-rank id-107/qqq; please do the same for other specific terms. If you also have particular indications (e.g. to keep in Latin, to follow scientifical terminology etc.), this is also useful context to add to qqq.

Nemo (talk)17:10, 23 April 2013

Closing para tag should be in code, not in message. It is also unbalanced, as there is no open tag.

Siebrand08:56, 14 April 2013

Fixed, thanks.

Jrice (talk)19:23, 22 April 2013

You should avoid markup in L10n. The surrounding para is not needed.

Siebrand08:54, 14 April 2013

(duplicate issue, already fixed.)

Jrice (talk)19:22, 22 April 2013

Please add context.

Siebrand12:42, 1 April 2013

None of the "activerecord.attributes" values really have a context; this is a Rails-ism, used to construct field labels and error messages about those fields. For example, this string would be used to build the label "replace duplicates" to the checkbox on the form for collection_jobs.

...Since this same logic applies to ALL of the "activerecord.attributes" values, I don't feel inclined to include this in the qqq. But if you disagree, please let me know how you would like these to be handled.

Jrice (talk)19:22, 22 April 2013

Please provide context.

Siebrand18:02, 7 April 2013

Added to qqq: "This is the title to a section of the API documentation that explains how and when to cache the results of API calls."

Jrice (talk)19:18, 22 April 2013
Edited by another user.
Last edit: 11:53, 14 April 2013

The <p> tag seems to be unneeded in the translation. Move it to the code.

Siebrand18:02, 7 April 2013


Jrice (talk)19:15, 22 April 2013

Is this patchwork? Or is there an implied "[post ]by ..."?

Siebrand17:08, 24 February 2013

Added to qqq: "This is a small line of text that appears under each comment, showing authorship. It is not meant to be a 'complete' sentence, just to briefly summarize who posted the comment and when."

Jrice (talk)19:13, 22 April 2013

Please provide context.

Siebrand17:20, 24 February 2013

Added to qqq: "On the EOL forums, the 'close' button is used to close dialog windows. Please keep this button label as short as possible."

Jrice (talk)19:10, 22 April 2013

Please provide context.

Siebrand17:10, 24 February 2013

Added to qqq:

"On the EOL forums, the 'link' button (this entry) is used to allow users to link to a specific comment. Please keep this button label as short as possible."

Jrice (talk)19:08, 22 April 2013

Translating the name "EOL"

When working on the project "Encyclopedia of Life", should the name of the project be also translated into Czech ("Encyklopedie života") and its frequently used acronyme EOL substituted by its Czech equivalent EŽ? Or are they to be kept in their original form?

Paxt (talk)09:43, 23 March 2013

I think you can choose what you like here, as long as it's implemented consistently.

Siebrand12:42, 23 March 2013

You can choose either, and the trick is to find the biggest community to reach an agreement on whether to translate. If the Czech community on Encyclopedia of Life is not very big, perhaps you could discuss on the Czech wikipedia, with links from the Portal:Cs. Do they have language community pages on EOL?

A related issue is whether to change the abbreviation EOL.

A quick review of the EOL home page shows that most, but not all, language verions have translated the name (in the header 'Currently in the Encyclopedia of Life' towards the bottom of the page). Most, but not all, have left the acronym EOL as it is. In all cases, the logo EOL with Encyclopedia of Life underneath it, stays in English.

Lloffiwr (talk)15:19, 23 March 2013

No Czech community pages on OEL, no website on the Czech wikipedia yet. Well, this will surely change once the EOL communicates also in Czech language. Until then I will use the original EOL acronym.

Paxt (talk)10:57, 25 March 2013

Could you discuss on the general community page of the Czech wikipedia?

It sounds very sensible to stick with the acronym EOL for now.

Lloffiwr (talk)13:15, 25 March 2013

I was just thinking that the EOL has its own website, whereas the Czech name points to nowhere, for some time at least. Could this be a problem?

Paxt (talk)19:54, 23 March 2013

Please provide a link to the "Czech name points to nowhere".

Lloffiwr (talk)20:52, 23 March 2013
Paxt (talk)18:28, 24 March 2013

Links should not be localised. Instead they should be kept as they are. There is a drop-down box to switch the language at the top of the EOL site.

Are these localised links coming from messages? If so, please list them so that the documentation can be written to stop these links from being translated.

Lloffiwr (talk)13:19, 25 March 2013

Is "additionalInformation" some API response field, or should this be "additional information"? The full stop should probably be outside of the italics.

Siebrand15:15, 27 December 2012

It's an API field; I quoted it and noted it in qqq.

And you're right about the period outside the italics (though I will be a good sport and admit that I didn't know as much, thought you were wrong, and had to look it up.)  ;)

Jrice (talk)22:49, 28 January 2013

FWIW, I checked the rest of the doc for italics and punctuation; they all follow the correct rule (that I could find with a simple regex).

Jrice (talk)22:49, 28 January 2013

Yay! Thanks for being thorough, Jeremy!

Siebrand23:23, 28 January 2013

I found " "(two spaces). It may be corrected " ".

아라다 알아 (talk)09:24, 8 January 2013

Agreed, fixed.

Jrice (talk)22:56, 28 January 2013

Please provide context.

Siebrand14:12, 4 January 2013

Added to qqq:

In this context, a 'Link' is actually a user-submitted link. Users can add web resources to EOL pages, and we call them 'Links'. So those links have ratings.

Jrice (talk)22:53, 28 January 2013

Need descriptions or keys for variables.

Siebrand15:44, 27 December 2012

Unused. Removed.

Jrice (talk)22:50, 28 January 2013

What's %{link}?

Siebrand15:06, 27 December 2012

This was a patchwork message. Fixed.

Jrice (talk)22:42, 28 January 2013

Should "taxonConceptID" be put in quotes to emphasize that it's some property?

Siebrand15:23, 27 December 2012

Okay, I've added quotes and noted that it shouldn't be translated in qqq.

Jrice (talk)22:38, 28 January 2013

Is "details" the name of the paramter? If so, please consider putting it in quotes.

Siebrand15:33, 27 December 2012

Okay, it's in quotes. I also added to qqq:

'details' is a parameter passed to the API; do not translate it.

Jrice (talk)22:34, 28 January 2013

What values do the parameters in this message have?

Siebrand15:35, 27 December 2012

Added to qqq:

'linka' will have the value of the 'dublin_core' translation, and 'linkb' will have the translation for 'eol_accepted_subjects'.

Jrice (talk)22:34, 28 January 2013

The currency code is USD, not US, at least if US is meant to be a currency code.

Siebrand21:26, 18 December 2012

Agreed, fixed. Thanks.

Jrice (talk)22:29, 28 January 2013

...Actually, I also removed the space before the colon and moved the abbr after the number (ie: "%{number} USD").

Jrice (talk)22:29, 28 January 2013
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