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|New pages for beginners||1||17:08, 20 May 2017|
|Help Guide||3||13:13, 30 May 2015|
|Support/Documentation review||4||10:36, 21 May 2017|
|Not translated||1||10:00, 29 January 2015|
We have added a few new pages to help beginners. To that we suggest that Translating:Getting_started is merged with Translating:How to start and that Project:About is moved to Translating:Introduction to translatewiki.net for consistency. Please check out the pages linked from Template:BeginnerInstructions to see if they make sense and are coherent and understandable.
I've been thinking a bit about how to make our instruction pages easier to find and use. I have seen a need for this when I have been organizing translate-a-thons for new users (as part of my work at Wikimedia Sverige). A draft is started on User:Jopparn/Help guide and I would love comments and ideas. Next week me and my colleague will start writing on the text (the plan is that we start at number 1 and work our down the list).
We have also been working on a number of videos that we would like to include there as soon as subtitles are added (and videos are activated here).
I hope you think that this sounds good. Let me know either way :-)
How does this connect to the previous Support/Documentation review?
It's not clear to me what you are proposing to do. It's certainly not a good idea to create more pages, while it's good to consolidate existing ones. Generic information (not specific to translatewiki.net) should be on mediawiki.org and not be replicated here. Video are very nice; TimedMediaHandler however still refuses to work with Translate (i.e. to use language-code subpages), will you also be able to fix that bug?
Something I identified earlier as regards Translate's documentation is that mw:Help:Extension:Translate lists help pages by kind of action, while often we need a list/walkthrough by persona/role. "Just" presenting the information better would do a lot.
In one of Wikimedia Sverige's (WMSE) projects we are looking at increasing the participation in, and use of, translatewiki.net. As part of that we are looking closer at the documentation available on translatewiki and how it can be improved.
As a first step we have now initiated a review of the existing documentation pages which is available at Support/Documentation review. Anyone wanting to work on this area of translatewiki is invited to take a look and participate in the process.
We have one review page too, http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/translate-doc
To give some context for above, we did that couple of years ago for Translate extension documentation. We moved that to mediawiki.org, expanded it and made it translatable. We did not ever get into doing a similar kind of exercise for translatewiki.net docs.
Hi Lokal Profil, I updated the page. I pruned or merged some pages. I split the list in three. IMHO,
- there is only about a dozen pages to focus on: they mostly already have all the needed content (the really necessary information is on mediawiki.org help), but they need to be connected better;
- all the other pages are not worth working on for you, the goal is to ensure they are not in the way (a better separation of namespaces may help, as well as a review of incoming links).
Is there a reason, why this page is not translated to other languages?
Yes, the reason is that translating links is generally not that useful and that we've not yet assessed thoroughly what documentation pages should be maintained here and what not. etherpad.wikimedia.org/translate-doc has a list of what we want to check (in the history; see links at the bottom).