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Split some show/hide messages?407:45, 28 October 2020
Logentry-rights-* and gender511:18, 26 September 2020
About MediaWiki:Yourgender/de413:44, 10 July 2020
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Split some show/hide messages?

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Last edit: 09:51, 6 June 2013

I can't figure out a meaningful and grammatically correct Estonian translation for show/hide messages like "Rcshowhideminor" that are used on RecentChanges and WhatLinksHere pages. In Estonian the word "Näita" (show) requires the following phrase (e.g. minor edits) to be in partitive case and the word "Peida" (hide) in genitive case. So I suggest these messages to be split into two messages where different cases can be used, "Hide minor edits" and "Show minor edits" instead of "$1 minor edits", similar to Revreview-diff-toggle-show ("show those changes") and Revreview-diff-toggle-hide ("hide those changes").

This problem involves messages Rcshowhideminor ("$1 minor edits"), Rcshowhidepatr ("$1 patrolled edits"), Rcshowhideliu ("$1 registered users"), Rcshowhidebots ("$1 bots"), Rcshowhideanons ("$1 anonymous users"), Rcshowhidemine ("$1 my edits"), Wikibase-rc-hide-wikidata ("$1 Wikidata"), Whatlinkshere-hidetrans ("$1 transclusions"), Whatlinkshere-hidelinks ("$1 links"), Whatlinkshere-hideredirs ("$1 redirects") and Whatlinkshere-hideimages ("$1 file links").

Pikne09:40, 6 June 2013

Sort of related: bugzilla:19592 for one "show/hide" message.

Nemo (talk)12:47, 6 June 2013

Arguably, a full redesign of Special:RecentChanges and Special:Watchlist is overdue. I don't support making high impact localisation related changes to those pages that are not part of that redesign, so I'd say that this is "won't fix".

Siebrand19:31, 5 July 2013

Sorry, I don't know much about programming. You mean that implementing what I suggest is way more complex than just toggling e.g. [Show minor edits|Hide minor edits] in place of toggling [Show|Hide] and removing what's after (minor edits) as that would be toggled too inside the new messages?

Are there any other suggestions in case of that sort of grammar issues?

Pikne15:57, 6 July 2013
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Last edit: 16:11, 8 July 2013

Consider using a format that doesn't cause grammatical issues.

A request: Please make your signature link to your user (talk) page. It does not link at all at the moment, so I don't know who you are.

Siebrand16:11, 8 July 2013

Logentry-rights-* and gender

I believe Logentry-rights-rights ("$1 changed group membership for $3 from $4 to $5"), Logentry-rights-rights-legacy ("$1 changed group membership for $3"), and Logentry-rights-autopromote ("$1 was automatically promoted from $4 to $5") should use the {{GENDER:$2|changed}} syntax in the original English message so the translations are not marked as problematic due to unsupported $2, which should be supported in all log entry messages.

Mormegil (talk)14:07, 15 November 2012

Isn't this the infamous bugzilla:24156 whose fix was vetoed by Tim?

Nemo (talk)18:23, 20 November 2012

Yes. I've added keyword "platformeng". Allegedly that should help.

Siebrand20:07, 20 November 2012

D’oh! You mean the whole gender support in log entries was reverted? I did not really notice that (except I spotted a few gender removals, but I thought they were special cases). But if that’s the case, {{Logentry}} should be updated as well, because using a quick grep, I found at least 112 messages with “logentry” and “gender” currently committed.

Mormegil (talk)10:26, 21 November 2012
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Last edit: 11:18, 26 September 2020

Not the whole support, just {{GENDER}} calls were removed because they were inefficient (apparently they are not anymore but they haven't been restored yet).

Nike (talk)12:11, 21 November 2012

I see; the GENDER seems to work correctly (on logentry-rights-*, at least), it was just removed because of a performance issue. All right then, I’ll let it be now, and wait for possible future restoration.

Mormegil (talk)16:21, 21 November 2012

MediaWiki core wraps this message into parentheses by default which does not make sense for at least German. So please remove them. If parentheses are needed a language may wrap individually. Thanks and Cheers.

[[kgh]] (talk)14:57, 8 September 2015

The gerrit change was abandoned, so if this is still relevant we'll need it filed on Phabricator...

Nemo (talk)22:09, 27 January 2020

Yeah, this is still absolute nonsense and every time I access my settings I start to loose faith again. In other words: Thanks for notifying. I will file a task.

[[kgh]] (talk)22:15, 27 January 2020

Ok. I suspect you meant MediaWiki:Gender-unknown/en though. I think the parentheses are there to convey the fact that it's a non-choice, the default choice, or not a direct answer to the question above the radio buttons. Then I don't know how consistent this is with the other preferences etc.

Nemo (talk)22:23, 27 January 2020

In the end somebody had mercy. It was changed to something sane. Cool.

[[kgh]] (talk)13:44, 10 July 2020
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