Hebrew script in Judeo-Spanish (Ladino) Wikipedia

  1. lad-latn and lad-hebr are standard, based on ISO 15924. "simple" was always a bad idea, and I'm actually trying to change it, and we shouldn't add more mistakes like this. But you can use lad-hebr, and it's perfectly standard. It would be possible to add a lad-hebr script variant and have localization in it. Ask about this at the Support page.
  2. It's technically possible, though may entail some issues, and I can't commit to a date. Can you please give a link to that open-source font?
  3. Of course Hebrew is there! Between Arabic and Bengali.
  4. See the file MessagesLad.php in the core MediaWiki source code. The first fallback language is Spanish, and after Spanish it's English, which is the default for all languages.
  5. See the file InitialiseSettings.php in the Wikimedia server configuration. In that file, search for the string wmgBabelCategoryNames. You'll see the category configuration for other languages. These examples should be pretty self-explanatory. Please write the configuration as it should be for Ladino, and I'll add it to that file. (This question made me notice that we don't have this for Hebrew, so I'm probably going to add it.)
Amir E. Aharoni (talk)14:40, 4 September 2015
  1. Thank you, Amir. I'll do that.
  2. I don't know that we're even asking yet; this was just a feasibility question.
    I'm personally not sure if it's such a good idea. Unquestionably, it only works if the server can offer the font, not if it depends on browser-side fonts. Also, as much as Rashi script is traditional for JS, there are a lot of people who can read the Hebrew alphabet who can't read Rashi script. Conversely, everyone who can read Rashi script can also read more conventional (square) Hebrew lettering. So I'm not sure that the "tradition" of Rashi script in JS outweighs the greater accessibility that more conventional Hebrew lettering brings the project.
    I found the font at the Open Siddur Project.
  3. I wasn't talking about the box above the editing box, I was talking about the section below the editing box.
  4. Thank you.
  5. Thank you. I'll get back to you with that.

StevenJ81 (talk) 16:34, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

StevenJ81 (talk)16:34, 4 September 2015

We'll go with 'ladwiki' => array( '0' => false, '1' => 'User %code%-1', '2' => 'User %code%-2', '3' => 'User %code%-3', '4' => 'User %code%-4', '5' => 'User %code%-5', 'N' => 'User %code%-N', ),

...because the categories are currently named "User ...", and we do have some level-5 categories. (Just curious: the local Babel box templates categorize an individual both to User %code% and User %code%-n, except in the case of level 0. Does the parser function work that way?)

StevenJ81 (talk)16:59, 4 September 2015

Hi StevenJ81,

This was just deployed to the Ladino Wikipedia, and you can test it. I see that it works on https://lad.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usador:Amire80 .

Amir E. Aharoni (talk)15:13, 9 September 2015

It works on my talk page, too. תודה רבה! (One question, though: is there a switch to suppress categorization? I ask only because I've got Babel on both my User page and my User talk page, and I don't need it to categorize me twice.) By the way, I also edited MediaWiki:Edittools, too. You can see alefbet glyphs there, including glyphs with rafe-bars. Also by the way: Why isn't Ladino listed at Special:SupportedLanguages? Finally: I have a note in at the Support page re lad-hebr.

Thanks for your help, and שנה טובה.

StevenJ81 (talk)18:28, 9 September 2015

> is there a switch to suppress categorization

Hmmm, not that I know. Nikerabbit, SPQRobin?

> Why isn't Ladino listed at Special:SupportedLanguages?

Not sure, this is also a question for Support.

Amir E. Aharoni (talk)18:48, 9 September 2015

Seems actually not to matter. Only "User:StevenJ81" appears on the category pages, not "User talk:StevenJ81". Only difference between two seems to be that local templates also categorize me directly into Category:User en (without level) as well as within level. But in that case, as it happens, using the #babel function actually suppresses the possibility of including the category User en (without level); I can't even add it manually.

StevenJ81 (talk)19:28, 9 September 2015

Hi, Amir. שנה טובה! Is there any way to nudge someone to answer the question I left on the support page? (After all, mostly what I have are questions now, not a lot of need for work.) Thanks very much.

StevenJ81 (talk)14:52, 16 September 2015