New language request

New language request

I request to create a new language on Translatewiki.net - the Siberian language. Information about this language:

  • The language name in English and in its own language - 'Siberian — Сибирской (sib)'.
  • Should the language fall back to another language other than English? - Yes, Russian (ru)/Русский.
  • Is the language RTL or LTR (written from right to left or left to right) - LTR.

Siberian Wikipedia was closed, but now there are live projects MediaWiki on this language, which requires its support. We already have part of the translation of this language, we plan to synchronize it with changes in the current system messages.

Grigol17:33, 1 July 2010

'sib' is the ISO 639 language code for Malaysia (Sarawak). Please provide a reference to the language you would like to localise in.

Siebrand18:01, 1 July 2010

I do not know whether there is information on the site of the Siberian language.

Russian-Siberian Dictionary is the official website and grammar.

Article about the Siberian language in Ukrainian Wikipedia.

I asked to comment of the native speaker (Yaroslav Zolotaryov).

Grigol18:11, 1 July 2010
 

It is sometimes considered as a Russian or Urkainian dialect, so we can use ru-sib or ru-uk codes, actually they usually used "ru-sib" in Wikipedia.

YaroslavZolotaryov18:16, 1 July 2010

ru-sib was removed from MediaWiki and as a Wikipedia because there was too much trolling. The current policy on both translatewiki.net and Wikimedia will not allow for non-standardised language codes. So 'Siberian Russian' or 'Siberian Ukranian' is out of the question.

Siebrand19:45, 1 July 2010

Translation of system messages in that language is necessary for the development some project, not in Wikimedia Foundation, where the edition on the Siberian language is created with the consent of the site administration. There is no "trolling" in the MediaWiki system messages can not be.

We are asking to create a language to translate and update the interface based on your site. As a language code can use "ru-sib" or another.

Grigol19:56, 1 July 2010
 

To avoid much discussion, are we able to make translation in our own server using some MediaWiki extension or something else?

YaroslavZolotaryov20:47, 1 July 2010

Yes, add a file called 'MessagesXxx.php' where 'Xxx' is the language code in the folder where 'MessagesEn.php' is. You can copy from MessagesRu.php for example. Then add an entry for 'xxx' in Names.php to make the code active.

Siebrand20:53, 1 July 2010

And is it possible to automate this with the Translate extension, based on the Russian original messages from official MediaWiki repository? At the same time use the same extension Translate to translate some of the required extensions of MediaWiki on the Siberian language (in our own server)? What are the configuration settings for the Translate extension necessary for this?

Grigol20:58, 1 July 2010
Siebrand20:59, 1 July 2010

Yes, I already read this page. For translation to Siberian with this extension should only add a file called 'MessagesSib.php' and «'sib' => 'Сибирской'» in Names.php and this language will be available via extension?

And how to define a language — the source of translation?

Grigol21:05, 1 July 2010
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Is it the same language that was closed on Wikipedia in 2007: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_Siberian_Wikipedia ?

Raymond19:44, 1 July 2010