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Editing messages using the AJAX tool - using a klick point in the lower left edge.022:29, 4 March 2015
About MediaWiki:Securepoll-htmlform-daterange-relative-layout/ksh022:27, 4 March 2015
About Translating:Group_statistics022:15, 4 March 2015
About MediaWiki:Apihelp-flowthank-example-1/ksh021:42, 4 March 2015
About MediaWiki:Log-show-hide-thanks/ksh021:36, 4 March 2015
About MediaWiki:Apihelp-titleblacklist-example-2/ksh020:57, 4 March 2015
About Huggle:Config-display-text/ksh019:09, 4 March 2015
About Huggle:Config-display-text/ksh017:51, 4 March 2015
About Huggle:Block-title/ksh016:09, 4 March 2015
About MediaWiki:Revreview-adv-stop-link/ksh015:31, 4 March 2015
About MediaWiki:Pm-swap-icon-hover-text/ksh015:05, 4 March 2015
About MediaWiki:Pagemigration/ksh, MediaWiki:Pm-summary-import/ksh015:03, 4 March 2015
About MediaWiki:Apihelp-translationstash-param-username/ksh, MediaWiki:Apihelp-translationstash-example-1/ksh, MediaWiki:Apihelp-translationstash-example-2/ksh015:03, 4 March 2015
About MediaWiki:Tpt-discouraged-language-force-header/ksh, MediaWiki:Tpt-discouraged-language-header/ksh, MediaWiki:Tpt-discouraged-language-content/kMediaWiki:Tpt-discouraged-language-force-content/kshsh]]014:18, 4 March 2015
About MediaWiki:Interlanguage-link-sitename-commons/ksh014:22, 4 March 2015
About Intuition:Raun-def i/qqq010:38, 4 March 2015
About MediaWiki:Pagepreparation/en012:37, 4 March 2015
About MediaWiki:Apihelp-ttmserver-param-sourcelanguage/en012:37, 4 March 2015
About MediaWiki:Apihelp-hardmessages-description/en012:37, 4 March 2015
Suggestions to make "MediaWiki" a link012:39, 4 March 2015
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Editing messages using the AJAX tool - using a klick point in the lower left edge.

When selecting a piece of text in the edit field first, then klicking on one of the labels in the lower left edge of the edit field, such as [$1] or [GENDER:$2], the selected text is not replaced. When typing on the keyboard, it is. That is somewhat counter-intuitive.

Purodha Blissenbach (talk)20:49, 4 March 2015

Very general question, or suggestion: Would it be possible to automatically alter the "generic plural for an unknown number" dynamically according to PLURAL rules, while users input something?

Of course, the answer is yes. Anything is programmable. It can be done for instance with tied to the input field JavaSkript. Would that be a luxury feature that we might wish to have?

Purodha Blissenbach (talk)22:27, 4 March 2015

Is there a way to translate the table's headers in this page?

Macofe (talk)22:15, 4 March 2015

According to the Documentation, the messages MediaWiki:Show and MediaWiki:Hide are included in this one, which btw. is not documented with the messages themselves, so amending them may render them unusable. But they are unusable here anyways.

Please avoid message reuse here, too, and create individual message for this inclusion.

Purodha Blissenbach (talk)21:36, 4 March 2015

Suggesting to allow a culturally sensible translation of "bar" if possible.

Purodha Blissenbach (talk)20:57, 4 March 2015

Need to know the gammatical gender of the next.

Purodha Blissenbach (talk)19:09, 4 March 2015

Need to know the gammatical gender of the next.

Purodha Blissenbach (talk)17:51, 4 March 2015

Is it possible to use or implement GENDER here?

Purodha Blissenbach (talk)16:09, 4 March 2015

According to the message documentation, the message is enclosed in parenthes. They should be made part of the message.

Purodha Blissenbach (talk)15:30, 4 March 2015

Documentation needed.

Purodha Blissenbach (talk)15:04, 4 March 2015

What exactly does "migration" do?

There is a link to Special:PageMigration in MediaWiki:Pm-summary-import/ksh, but I am not allowed to see the page contents :-(

Purodha Blissenbach (talk)14:56, 4 March 2015

This messages require grammatical modifications on the language, $1, which we currently do not have. That has been mentioned elsewhere on Support already with some details.

General question: What to do? Shall we merge these cases into GRAMMAR although it is a complete different use case in the languages that I am aware of, or should we rather target to have an own construct (e.g. LANGRAMMAR) for it, or shall we wait and try to have these solved via CLDR?

While I certainly prefer the latter, it is likely going to take years, and does imho not spare us a (generic) LANGRAMMAR.

Purodha Blissenbach (talk)10:36, 4 March 2015

As long as we do not know, how and where this is "part of the tooltip", translating is a kind of guesswork. How about making the entire tooltip translatable, likely with parameters?

Purodha Blissenbach (talk)13:44, 4 March 2015

Documetantion unclear. Ok, it was something. What about now?

Purodha Blissenbach (talk)12:18, 3 March 2015

This message exhibits a general problem. According to its documentation, is is:

Used as page title in Special:PageMigration, and also used as link text in Special:SpecialPages.

It shares these uses with a not-so-small class of MediaWiki messages used twice. That should be avoided, and it does not work anyways when translated.

The entire class of messages actually has three uses:

  1. As a link in Special:SpecialPages:
    • Do something about a page/user/…
  2. As a title of its own special page when no selection has been made:
    • Do something about a page/user/… to be named now.
  3. As a title of its own special page with a selection made:
    • Do something about this page/user/…
(Case 2 does not always apply)

While we can translate case 2 identical to case 1 in Colognian - not good but acceptable - there is no valid grammatical way to combine it with case 3. Thus whatever we translate, it is ridiculously wrong at least once.

Purodha Blissenbach (talk)10:18, 4 March 2015

Assuming there is only one source text. If so:

A language code of the source text.

The language code of the source text.
Purodha Blissenbach (talk)09:38, 4 March 2015

Needs more precise Documentation about its semantics.

Purodha Blissenbach (talk)09:24, 4 March 2015
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