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The future of LiquidThreads

We already stopped creating LiquidThreads on new pages. When I see pages that still have them, I archive them (I have a silly, but mostly functioning user script for that; I don't recommend using it unless you are really-really sure that you know what you're doing).

Do we have a plan to uninstall the extension completely? The current discussions should be converted to classic talk pages, and I think that there is a way to do it, but I don't know a lot of details.

(To alleviate any doubt, I'm talking about using the extension. It can remain available for translation.) Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 12:48, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

AFAIK the only conversion path currently available is doing a lossy conversion from LQT to Flow and then another lossy conversion from Flow to wikitext. This is unfortunate because

it requires installing Flow,
and it’s probably much more lossy than a (still somewhat lossy) LQT to wikitext conversion, especially because LQT is much closer to traditional talk pages (i.e. what we convert to) than Flow: it stores posts in wikitext rather than its custom format (is Flow’s custom format even wikitext-based, or is it HTML-based? I’m not sure), it allows custom signatures etc.

I wish someone wrote a direct conversion, and that was run on Translatewiki (and on WMF wikis that have LQT installed). —Tacsipacsi (talk) 18:50, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That's, more or less, what I heard, too :(

However, I'm still hopeful that something better can be done here :)

Before I start digging more, I'd love to hear from people who do more deeply technical things than me here, such as @Raymond, @Nike, and @Abijeet Patro—have you ever discussed any plans for that? Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 20:17, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Amire80 Sorry, I am not deep enough in LQT/Flow. Simple workaround: Let's archive all LQT pages by the Internet Archive/Internet today and replace the pages with a link to the archive(s). And/Or replace a LQT page with a (dirty, but readable) copy & paste of the content. Raymond 08:11, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Flow uses Parsoid HTML, which should in theory be convertible back to wikitext, and didn't support custom signatures. It can in theory be configured to use wikitext instead, but that config isn't used anywhere and may well have stopped working.

In practice when I tried to convert back to wikitext on MediaWiki.org I ran into a while host of issues resulting from old versions of Parsoid HTML, but if the conversion to HTMl was done in the same version as the conversion from HTML tha those specific problems shouldn't occur. The script I used for that (https://gitlab.wikimedia.org/pppery/flow-export-with-history) had a few hacks for cleaning up LQT artifacts, but they required a connection to the wiki replicas so wouldn't work here, and probably need to be rewritten entirely.

The quick-and-dirty script I wrote at https://public-paws.wmcloud.org/User:Pppery/WMF%20Cleanup/LQTW.ipynb last year to cleanup ghost LQT threads that never got imported to Flow is still available but wasn't designed for this, and I might make a full export-with-history script later if I feel motivated to do that (which will probably do the double-conversion approach to reuse code but do it on an internal wiki). Pppery (talk) 16:08, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Add Hokkien Hàn-lô writing system to translatewiki

Hi, the Taiwanese Wikimedia community has proposed the Hàn-lô writing system to the Wikimedia ecosystem. Hàn-lô is quite wildly used by Taiwanese Hokkien publisher and online forum discuss in Taiwan. And we want to add this language and languae writing system on Wiki sites. SupaplexTW (talk) 03:11, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

CC @Amir E. Aharoni, @Jon Harald Søby, @Nike. -- Winston Sung (talk) 09:32, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion request

~~Please delete:~~

MediaWiki:Variantname-sh-cyrl/sh

MediaWiki:Variantname-sh-latn/sh

Reason: The main language code is no longer used. Translations exist in specific scripts. – Aca (talk) 09:38, 16 July 2025 (UTC) – Seems like they are required nonetheless. – Aca (talk) 10:44, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Move proposal

It seems like there are c. 4750 translations in the main Serbo-Croatian language code. Code lookup finds at least 490 of them. Should these messages be moved to the sh-latn code? – Aca (talk) 09:58, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I would be surprised if most of those sh-latn translations didn't exist already. Nike (talk) 12:15, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Nike: Fair point. That should be checked as well. Duplicated translations should be deleted. – Aca (talk) 15:57, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Most of the iOS translations are not moved. I'm working with Winston Sung to get them moved. – Aca (talk) 13:28, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

User:Intobesa.bot

I would like to request permission to use the bot for the reformation of the Mon language (Reason: This င် spelling is an outdated Mon writing system and greatly interferes with AI's ability to distinguish between Mon and Burmese writing systems. The reason is that even though I teach the AIs the Mon language every day, the AIs are having a lot of trouble distinguishing the Mon-Burmese writing system. If the င် spelling continues to be used, it will greatly hinder the future development of modern Mon literature. What we now know is that AIs are learning from Wiki data every day), thanks.--𝓓𝓻.𝓘𝓷𝓽𝓸𝓫𝓮𝓼𝓪|𝒯𝒶𝓁𝓀 04:50, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WikiEditor, CodeMirror and Wikify

Hello everyone! I created a script that adds a WikiEditor panel to the translation fields, hopefully it will be useful to someone :)

mw.loader.load('//translatewiki.net/w/index.php?title=User:Iniquity/translatewiki-editor.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript');

Iniquity (talk) 07:05, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed that it only loaded after the second page load. Iniquity (talk) 07:16, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Iniquity: Nice! Thanks!

I'm having trouble with it though; after inputting translations, the "Publish translation" button remains gray, when I have syntax highlighting enabled (if I disable it, it works as expected). See this function in the Translate extension's code to see what the extension does. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 09:03, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Jon Harald Søby: Thanks! Fixed! Iniquity (talk) 19:23, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Nemoralis (talk) 16:32, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ctrl+Enter to publish the translation does not work with this. Nemoralis (talk) 16:36, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Nemoralis Thanks! Fixed too! Iniquity (talk) 19:23, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Iniquity, it would be good if we can resize the editor window. I can't see the rest of the message. Nemoralis (talk) 20:37, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Nemoralis, done, I think :) Iniquity (talk) 19:12, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sandbox not opening

Hi there, I'm not able to get permission as a translator because the sandbox doesn't show up for me on the homepage. When I click on the 'Get permission' link below the translations, then it just redirect me to the homepage. I've registered this account in 2008, could that be the problem? I'd appreciate any help on how to fix this, thanks! ~ Boro (talk) 22:18, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Boro: Hi, and welcome back! Yeah, when you registered your account we used another (more manual) system, before we got the sandbox system. I have given you translator rights now, so you can start translating.

Please also create a user page and use {{#babel:}} to indicate which languages you know. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 07:19, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, that worked! Created the user page too. :) ~ Boro (talk) 11:57, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

About EtherpadLite:Index.placeholderPadEnter/en

This new original is in German, not in English. Where can I fix the original? Ciell (talk) 08:13, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It has been already fixed by the bot. maro21 (talk) 16:13, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bole language is not yet available for general use in MediaWiki and on Wikidata.

Hello. We translated Most important messages on translate.net we are still seeing ❌ This language is not yet available for general use in MediaWiki.

❌ This language is not yet available for general use on Wikidata. Please help us connect them. Thank you! El-hussain14 (talk) 21:23, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

User name change

I would like to change my user name to Mdktb Thx in advance --Mohanad (talk) 18:03, 12 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Username change for two accounts

the account User:Juwan is currently locked out due to losing my 2FA codes a while ago. Amire has tried to reset it a couple of times but I still couldn't get in. as such, I wish that this and that account be renamed.

Juwan is renamed to JnpoJuwan and is locked permanently (its userpage may be redirected to the new account)
- this name is already used on Wikimedia and serves a double purpose as a doppelganger
Juwan~backup (this account) is renamed to Juwan and receives the rights from the old account

Juwan~backup (talk) 19:31, 12 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

CC @Amire80 @Jon Harald Søby @Nike. if any admin wants to take a stab on the backend to get the original working, I would appreciate that as well. Juwan~backup (talk) 19:35, 12 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]