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Most curious user interface. Site disables keyboard. No go.

I'm a former en/ru/commons editor, came here after seeing Gmeijssen's notice on ru-wiki. Let me tell you, the "usability features" of this site exceeds the worst of expectations.

I'm writing this in an external editor, to be copy-pasted in mediawiki's edit window. Why? because the site disabled typing Latin characters and most of punctuation marks. The OS, of course, switches keyboard layouts as usually, but all Latin characters typed in the window are converted to Cyrillic gibberisch. Even Latin comma is rendered as Cyrillic б. Four tildes are rendered as ЁЁЁЁ. Right, my IP geolocates to Russia, but even Russians need commas... sometimes... they really do. And then there are Chinese, French, ... - just stuck in here. Don't they need commas, too?

Oh, yes, there's a "Language" selector on top. I managed to switch it to English after around ten failed attempts. It turned out that choosing the first meaningful option (US-EN) is a dead end that redirects to all-Russian. The EN-EN worked, thank you. 11:12, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Hello, we're very sorry that you found it so difficult to edit, this is not how it's supposed to work. First, this is enabled by default only for languages which have defined an input method, and it can be disabled in the preferences. Second, I've just tried to set my language to Russian (both as a registered and anonymous) editor, and I was able to write normally: what you described happened only if I explicitly set "русская стандартная" instead of "Немецкий" in the "Метод ввода" menu, and I was still able to disable it entirely by unchecking "Для переключения метода ввода (Ctrl-M)". I believe this is how it's supposed to work, perhaps it depends on your browser? Which browser are you using? If it's too hard to use this website, you can file it as a bug on bugzilla:. Thank you, Nemo (talk) 20:51, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Kindly Translate Mediawiki:Duplicate-args-category for Sindhi (sd)

Kindly Translate (Mediawiki:Duplicate-args-category) for Sindhi (sd) or let me know I shall translate it into Sindhi language (sd) Thanks..!اسد علي (talk)

اسد علي (talk)11:55, 29 December 2015

Is there a page to ask questions?

Is there a Support page where to ask questions? Could there be such a page for general questions, and another page for particular questions?

What I mean is that this Support page ought to be divided in two separate sections: one for general problems and another for questions concerning a single word or translation of a single message. I don't think the current situation is beneficial to anyone.

Pxos (talk)11:20, 27 March 2015

I am well aware that I am currently flooding this page with a pile of stuff that I had to postpone for several months lacking spare time. That makes me unhappy, too. On the other hand - I shall have to revert to my normal frequency of editing in few days, so it is going to be over soon.

Purodha Blissenbach (talk)13:23, 27 March 2015

The flooding itself is not a major problem. The fact that Liquid Threads or something else prevents the easy solution of splitting this "Village Pump" into two or more sections, is a nuisance. There should be multiple sections for various questions.

Pxos (talk)17:13, 29 March 2015

The TWN core staff won't consider reverting to wikitext discussions.

Could you clarify the use case you have in mind? Did you open some discussion here which you feel could have benefited from a different organisation of the talk page? Is there some discussion which you would have liked to follow but were unable to?

Nemo (talk)17:27, 29 March 2015

Splitting is not currently possible, but I proposed a fix some years ago: phabricator:T40635.

Nemo (talk)15:02, 27 March 2015

This is now done, for several projects. I hope there will be several benefits; one of them is that Support should soon be way less busy and easier for normal users to use for discussion etc.

Nemo (talk)11:30, 6 September 2015

$wgNamespaceAliases for Serbo-Croatian Wikipedia

A thread, Thread:Talk:Support/$wgNamespaceAliases for Serbo-Croatian Wikipedia and correction names namespaces, was moved from here to Translating talk:MediaWiki. This move was made by Nemo bis (talk | contribs) on 5 September 2015 at 14:43.

Module namespace - translation on Serbian Latin and Croatian

A thread, Thread:Talk:Support/Module namespace - translation on Serbian Latin and Croatian, was moved from here to Translating talk:MediaWiki. This move was made by Nemo bis (talk | contribs) on 5 September 2015 at 14:43.

Instead of simply removing localized texts, why not make this page a normal translateable page? After all, there are only a few keystroke that need translation.

Purodha Blissenbach (talk)11:29, 17 May 2015

I'm not aware of LiquidThreads working in translatable pages.

Nemo (talk)12:05, 17 May 2015

Neither am I, but why not. If I had the right to do so, I had long given it a try making a new page in my user name space translatable and allowing Liquidthreads on it. If it works: fine; else: bad luck. :-)

Purodha Blissenbach (talk)12:40, 17 May 2015

Translating top section of Support

I noticed that the topsection of the SUpport page is not translated. Would it be possible to include this in a message (similar to MediaWiki:Bw-request-translator-intro/en) or would another solution be better? Also if an admin can delete Support/top it would be appreciated (with lt i guess there is less need to separate the header from the discussions}.

Lokal Profil (talk)08:21, 6 August 2014

I've changed the support page to include page support/xyz for interface language code xyz as its into, if that page exists. Otherwise, it sticks to English.

Purodha Blissenbach (talk)14:46, 23 February 2015


Lokal Profil (talk)15:56, 23 February 2015

Subcategories for Category:Open support requests for MediaWiki

Considering the size of MediaWiki (plus it's various extensions) it is perhaps unsurprising that Category:Open support requests for MediaWiki is huge. My thinking is that if we had subcategories for this (an thus for {{Support}}) then it might be easier to get/force the team responsible for the components to e.g. subscribe to the RSS feed for that category.

Responding to feedback is something we require of new projects so it seems like a disconnect that something similar is not the case for MediaWiki extensions, especially the ones being developed within WMF.

Lokal Profil (talk)09:05, 22 August 2014

The category is not particularly big currently; it's usually above 100 items. In practice teams as such don't follow anything, only individuals do; and for each component there are different individuals with different preferences. Support/Open requests is a more useful view.

Nemo (talk)11:07, 22 August 2014

Thanks for the Support/Open requests link. It is useful but from it I'm guessing that no notification is triggered unless you are added as the responsible dev in the Support-template. If there is a good master list for who the default dev is for different extensions then that would be easy to add but I would e.g. have no clue whom to assign as dev for the Echo-messages.

The main point remains though that there should be some process by which the responsible teams (thinking mainly WMF) get notified about issues relating to their extensions. Otherwise the solution is the current one where forgotten requests here end up becoming bugs in bugzilla just so that they get some action. That seems like a somewhat backwards process, not to mention that it results in potentially months of delay whilst the messages in question are untranslated or mistranslated.

Lokal Profil (talk)16:15, 27 August 2014

Bugzilla is the place where you find the persons that are responsible for handling bugs in many extensions or areas of MediaWiki. Tt is a bit unfortunate that you have to open a bug (i.e. rewrite or copy & paste most of what you aready entered here) in order to really reach them. --Purodha Blissenbach (talk) 10:49, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Purodha Blissenbach (talk)10:49, 23 September 2014

Does this help

A thread, Thread:Talk:Support/Does this help, was moved from here to User talk:Thefartydoctor. This move was made by Lloffiwr (talk | contribs) on 27 February 2013 at 13:12.