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The following issue is closed by Nemo_bis (chase).

Hello, I wonder if I could request username renaming here? If it is possible, please rename this account to "Rachmat04" to similize with my Wikimedia username and to omit my last name. Thank you in advance.

··· 👦 Rachmat.Wahidi · 💬

Sure. Done.

Nemo (talk)

and sorry for my mistake in translation. :( I'm creating tool in localhost to translate .po file easily. this tool automatically save translation and also show vocabulary but this also save not translated strings. few files are automatically updated when I open these files in my tool. I uploaded last updated file here.

I checked your message today but I don't know how to revert in translation. I'll start translating all these messages soon.

Sfic (talk)

Ok. Please try to translate the remaining messages imported at the same time, because Nuke didn't manage to delete everything, I think.

Please send us the next po file by email so that it can be tested before import. Have you tried tools like Lokalize or Poeditor to see if htey do what you need?

Nemo (talk)

The following issue is closed.

Done in phabricator:T137376

Could you change the fallback for Atikamekw to be French instead of English? Right now when Atikamekw translators select "Atikamekw" in the language bar in the top of the page (to the left of their username), the interface switch to English. Amqui (talk) 14:47, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

Amqui (talk)

Yes, it should be feasible.

Nemo (talk)

What do I need to do?

Amqui (talk)

Hi Nemo, Did you actually changed the fallback language for Breton?

Fulup (talk)

The following issue is closed by Nemo_bis (chase).

gerrit:339070 merged.

The translation of REDIRECT in Occitan as REDIRECCION is causing problems in Catalan sites with recent Occitan fallback. It is inserted by a button in the edit toolbox but the Occitan form is not recognized as a magic word in Catalan sites. As there is no translation in Catalan the English form should be restored, but I do not find how to fix it.

Vriullop (talk)

Hello, thanks for writing. Can't we just add a translation for "REDIRECT" in Catalan, so that it works in the wikitext? I think it's possible to make the editors continue using "REDIRECT", but I don't remember where that's controlled.

Nemo (talk)

I remember there was somewhere a page for editing aliases for magic words and special pages, but I can not find it anymore. With API query https://ca.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=magicwords I have found current aliases with a mix of English, Catalan and Occitan. Occitan aliases are really working, including #REDIRECCION althought yesterday it did not work when I checked it. Users will not use Occitan aliases but it is misleading when it is introduced by the code editor toolbar. Probably it can be solved per site configuration either removing the Occitan alias and using the English #REDIRECT or introducing the Catalan translation #REDIRECCIÓ, but may be other Occitan aliases are used by other tools or the Visual Editor.

In short, is there any option for editing translated aliases for magic words or should I fill a request at Phabricator case by case?

Vriullop (talk)

See FAQ#Special:AdvancedTranslate. The most efficient way is that you submit a patch yourself, in the end it takes less time than explaining things to others on Phabricator. See mw:Gerrit/Tutorial or (even easier, in theory, especially on Windows) mw:Gerrit patch uploader.

Nemo (talk)

The following issue is closed by Nemo_bis (chase).

Dear Nemo bis,

I hope you could delete these two redirects: User:Wmr89502270, User_talk:Wmr89502270.

Thank you!

Wmr (talk)

I think it's a bad idea, but done.

Nemo (talk)

Hello Nemo, I still have a question :)

In Kurdish language, we need to know if the last letter of a word is a consonant or vowel for the conjugate or to add a suffix. For example, here for conjugation, if the last letter is a consonant we must add "e" if it is a vowel we add "y". In our example we put the "y" in brackets to indicate that it depends on the last letter of the word.

It is the same thing when we add a suffix: Adding "y" if the last letter is a vowel but with a particularity for the vowel "î" (in the contact of "y" the "î" loses the circumflex accent, I also speak here)

On ku.wikipedia we use these two templates inside the other templates: [1] and [2]. Is there a way to do this? I saw this... Thanks

Ghybu (talk)

Hello Nemo,

I see that Wikimedia-specific language codes ("zh-min-nan", "roa-rup",...) have no translation in the interlanguage links, except from an English default translation ("Chinese (min nan)",...). The CLDR hasn't indeed any entry for these codes https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/diffusion/ECLD/browse/master/CldrNames/CldrNamesEn.php , since they are not Unicode consortium language codes.

That said, this is a pity that some language codes can't have any translation. Is there something we can do to allow localization also for these codes?

By advance thank you

Automatik (talk)

Actually those language names are translated (as "nan" and "rup") in all CLDR languages, except their own because they're not CLDR language codes (yet). I have a patch in the works to pick up the translations which use a different code than MediaWiki's, but I guess you want to add the "autonym" i.e. the name of the language in the same language, right? The ideal way to do that is adding the locale to CLDR, you see at CLDR how.

Nemo (talk)

Actually I just hope that we can have a translation in every language for the language name of "zh-min-nan" (cf. the interlanguage links' tooltips of https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionnaire:Page_d%E2%80%99accueil?uselang=fr : the second to last link is for "zh-min-nan", and the tooltip displays the English language name "Chinese (Min Nan)", instead of the French one.

I guess your patch will solve this issue, if I'm not mistaken.

Automatik (talk)

Unfortunatelly, I doubt if CLDR can have time to handle all languages of the world, as Nikki said in phab:T151269: The CLDR officially rejected the addition of Kven (fkv) and Pite Sami (sje), and in an early request they also vetoed (?) the addition of Buryat (bxr) and Moldovan (mo).

So far, we should still encourage users to request addition on CLDR, but if they refused such codes, isn't it not bad to add such translations of codes to https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/diffusion/ECLD/browse/master/LocalNames/LocalNamesEn.php , https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/diffusion/OMWC/browse/master/wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php , and something in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/diffusion/ECLD/ ?

Liuxinyu970226 (talk)

We're not taking about all languages of the world, but about two specific languages which are relevant and were already accepted by CLDR. If they rejected them, sure, we should add them locally; but that didn't happen.

Nemo (talk)

Hello, There is a translation problem for the "ku-latn" language. I left a message here. I do not know where the problem may come from. Thanks for any help

Ghybu (talk)

If you're going to remove this, then let me know and I will delete incoming links to it. Otherwise, it's helpful to have WikiNodes as they encourage closer bonding in the larger WikiSphere.

Koavf (d) (en-N/en-US, es-2/es-US, de-1, pt-1)

Our WikiNode is Project:About. It provides all the information you placed on Project:WikiNode, except it's correct.

Nemo (talk)

One of the functions of a WikiNode is to introduce users to similar wikis, which the About page does not do. It seems like you're unfamiliar with the distinction. Since you seem so reluctant to cooperate with outside wikis using this landing page, I'll just delete it from WikiIndex. I think that's unfortunate.

Koavf (d) (en-N/en-US, es-2/es-US, de-1, pt-1)

I've known the function of WikiNodes for far longer than you, I bet. Project:About links the connected wikis and serves the purpose. The wikis you mentioned in your proposed WikiNode are irrelevant and have no relation to translatewiki.net.

Nemo (talk)

I went ahead and deleted it per your preferences here. Always a real pleasure to chat with you, Nemo. Have a happy 2017.

Koavf (d) (en-N/en-US, es-2/es-US, de-1, pt-1)

Your choice.

Nemo (talk)

Phabricator T151008 can now move again, just for pt, right?

Hamilton Abreu (talk)

Yes. Fixing our parser of the CLDR data is a self-contained task, though not necessarily an easy one.

Nemo (talk)

I was just trying to preserve the best translation, as always. I've done a lot for this project. Plus edit war = two editors. Next time you have to do best your work. If you want to allow these bad changes, is up to you.

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So how many more days I will have to wait until you give me back my translator rights? Or I'll have to contact another qualified administrator? Because wrong changes are being made and many other messages are waiting for translation and proofreading.

⠧⠌⠞⠕⠗ (♪)

I'll review the situation in a month. Depending on whether in this period you cooperate productively with your fellow translators in portal talk:pt and neighbouring pages, you may have the translator permissions back at that time or in some more months/years.

Nemo (talk)

In a month? You do not even know what you're talking about or doing. I just reverted changes made without consensus. I'm here for years and I have never been treated this way before. Where can I find a qualified administrator please?

⠧⠌⠞⠕⠗ (♪)

Insulting users will not bring you far, be careful.

Nemo (talk)

I'm not insulting anyone. I only need someone more qualified to address this situation, because while you do not know what you are doing wrong changes are occurring.

⠧⠌⠞⠕⠗ (♪)

The following issue is closed by Nemo_bis (chase).

Translate lib.reviews:abandon draft/uk

Abandon draft -> Відмовитися від проекту

lib.reviews:already logged in/uk Please note that you're already logged in. Please don't create more than one account per person, unless it is for clearly distinguished roles (e.g., professional vs. personal). -> Зверніть увагу, що ви вже авторизуватись. Будь ласка, не створюйте більше одного облікового запису на людину, якщо це чітко розрізняються ролі (наприклад, професійні і особисті).

Irus (talk)

Direct your suggestions to Ukrainian translators, not to me

Nemo (talk)

y

Irus (talk)

Why did you delete that?

\m/etalhead ✉

Because we are not watching them.

Nemo (talk)

And where's the problem?

\m/etalhead ✉

The problem is that people use those to request deletion and their request is not satisfied. Without the template, it will be clear to them that they have to use another venue (Support) and we'll satisfy the request quickly.

Nemo (talk)

My personal experience is that requests are satisfied. There are log entries which suggest that at least Metalhead was watching them. It seems reasonable to have the tag just for the case of simplicity. If requests aren't satisfied in a timely manner, then the tag could include a note which reads that for urgent requests it's recommended to use the support page instead.

Pikne

If an administrator wants to recreate the template and make sure the requests are handled, they're free to.

Nemo (talk)

Please remove Template:Welcome/i18n temporarily from translation and move the existing translations to its subpages. (You can re-add it after all translations have been moved.) Then they should be merged into the translation system – this is the part in which I can help, or you can use Special:PageMigration. This complies with copyright while making the migration easier (especially if you chose PageMigration). Thanks,

Tacsipacsi (talk)

I intentionally avoided doing so, to have the old subpages around and quickly restorable. If you copy the old messages you can link the source page to respect cc-by-sa.

Nemo (talk)

OK, then I re-translated it to Hungarian. But it still doesn’t work – there aren’t any {{int:lang}} messages. Is there any other way to get the user language code or should we create hundreds (or at least dozens) of messages?

Tacsipacsi (talk)

Oh, I see, an error introduced by [1]. Let me fix.

Nemo (talk)

Thank you, I didn’t think of the fact that I made the error… But the most important is that it finally works.

Tacsipacsi (talk)