New plural rules for Scots Gaelic (gd)
Ah yes, not too dissimilar - except we have the bizarre situation of having gone from decimal in Old Irish to vigesimal in modern Irish and Gaelic to decimal and vigesimal because educators bizarrely thought you can't to maths in 20s... go figure. Sometimes I'm glad though we only have one type of mutation that's written ;)
The relative pronouns won't be a problem, it's not bothered about singular/plural.
PLURAL:$1|Hidden category|Hidden categories
the following cascade-protected PLURAL:$1|page|pages
Ok if I get you right, the above would result in one instance of singular category, page and then when the numeral goes above 1, it applies plural forms but that clashes with our formula because Gaelic thinks 11 is a singular form whereas English says it's a plural?
Hm. Annoying. Could we stick 11 (and 12 also then I guess) into its own form? Would something like this solve the headache:
- 1 >> Form 1
- 2 >> Form 2
- 3-10 >> Form 3
- 11 >> Form 1
- 12 >> Form 2
- 13-19 >> Form 3
- 0, 20 and anything above >> Form 4
Thanks for the interesting extra info on Scots Gaelic.
Yes, separating 1 and 11 into two groups would solve your problem in the messages above. (How bothered Scots Gaelic users are with this is not for me to say, of course). Amending your original groupings gives the following:
- 1 >> Form 1
- 2, 12 >> Form 2
- 11 >> Form 3
- 3-10, 13-19 >> Form 4
- 0, 20 and anything above >> Form 4
We have to do the same for 12 too though, because it's also treated as singular (but with lenition of all words), cf:
1 dùn, 11 dùn, 2 dhùn, 12 dhùn
3 dùin
Bothered... in this case very. I'm all for not being overly conservative in grammar and style but this is a very important thing to get right.
OK. I must say that I enjoy working on translatewiki.net partly because, being volunteers, we are able to concentrate on quality rather than quantity or speed of translation.
So, again amending your original formulation, you need 6 categories altogether
- 1 >> Form 1
- 2 >> Form 2
- 11 >> Form 3
- 12 >> Form 4
- 3-10, 13-19 >> Form 5
- 0, 20 and anything above >> Form 6
It does make a nice change, especially the feeling that the people at the other end are actually interested in the peculiarities of your language and getting it right. Try explaining the plurals issue to the Google in Your Language team >.<
Yes, that would appear to cover it all, dioch yn fawr, a charaid!