Disabled languages

Your suggestions seem fine to me, but I don't have a clue how much work is involved since I know very little about software so my comments on your suggestions are not of much use!

Lloffiwr (talk)22:16, 14 November 2011

I don't remember, have we made any progress here? Just adding a parameter to the template, taking the list of disabled languages from the config files in git, shouldn't be too hard a step (if we've not done it yet).

Nemo (talk)03:39, 12 July 2012

As far as I'm aware, nothing was done. It would be great to see some progress. :-)

Lloffiwr (talk)20:19, 14 July 2012

I've added a disabled= parameter which almost blanks the portal page, basically deleting it as Siebrand suggested, and I've added the parameter to the portals you had listed on Category:Disabled languages without translators; more reasons can be added in the parameter itself or as notes=. Please check that the list of disabled languages is correct and that everything is ok.

Nemo (talk)22:59, 14 July 2012

Thank you for adding the parameter. I will update the list of disabled languages without translators and add or subtract the disabled= parameter as needed. However, there are some portals which have translators but are disabled (I will need some time to identify and list these). Will adding the parameter disabled= to these work?

It seems a shame to get rid of the information on the language and links to Ethnologue, Wikipedia, etc. And what about Purodha's point about the Babel boxes?

The word disabled is confusing here, since the category Languages without translators includes languages which have never been enabled as well as those which have been enabled and subsequently disabled. Since some of these languages have had portals started with a view to eventually being enabled, it is useful to have the information on the language still appear, but confusing to have links to non-existant translation tools and statistics appear.

Lloffiwr (talk)11:32, 15 July 2012

Yes, the parameter works even if there are translators; the list of them is kept so that one can ask them info (that's the idea). Babels don't seem very useful, the link to Wikipedia in the header is kept; I don't mind readding some stuff but I think the portal needs to look completely different or the note won't be noticed at all (nobody reads warnings).

I think "disabled" is not too confusing as a parameter, but the note can surely be improved, just edit it; I also had to edit Translatewiki.net languages because the process to enable/disable and export or not languages is unclear; and still is. If a language has never been enabled I doubt there's much useful info in a portal: it should be kept only if it has discussions, terminologies or something else, otherwise deleted as Siebrand suggested. IMHO.

Nemo (talk)12:21, 15 July 2012

I've edited the template note. Thank you for improving the Translatewiki.net languages page.

Are you going to keep a track of site changes to spot new portals when they are set up, with a view to deleting them as they are set up?

Lloffiwr (talk)14:23, 15 July 2012

Thanks for the template note.

I don't think I'll pay that much attention to portal edits and I'm not even sure it's worth deleting them quickly, a regular maintenance seems better doesn't it? For instance, we could delete all (empty?) portals for languages which don't have any RC entry.

Nemo (talk)15:34, 15 July 2012

Maybe somebody from the localisation team or the languages committee could comment?

Lloffiwr (talk)15:55, 15 July 2012