User talk:Lloffiwr



Thread titleRepliesLast modified
ContentTranslation009:46, 9 June 2015
Thank you for your contributions!013:31, 10 August 2014
Documentation recognition314:23, 3 May 2014
New language requests623:08, 27 March 2014
luz language southern luri in iran413:58, 5 January 2014
Hmoob Dawb415:27, 29 December 2013
southern luri luz enabling414:37, 23 December 2013
Request for Bugzilla222:07, 13 December 2013
translating portal:lrc page to luri lrc210:41, 4 November 2013
luri lrc translation615:25, 8 October 2013
Translation500:08, 5 July 2013
Word819:08, 2 June 2013
Sain siwr beth ddylen i gyfieithu!009:35, 20 October 2011
Thread:Support/Reqest_for_comments/help_for_starting_project_terminologies019:03, 13 June 2011
Manylion uwchlwytho lluniau123:15, 23 May 2011
Plurals in Welsh616:12, 4 April 2011
Example for liquid threads documentation016:28, 9 January 2011
Licensing116:13, 16 October 2010
A big thank you116:23, 29 May 2010
MediaWiki:Powersearch-togglelabel/sw214:26, 6 March 2010



Can you please help complete the translation of the ContentTranslation extension? It is being deployed to the Welsh Wikipedia this week, and it would be great to have it fully translated.

Thank you very much!

Amir E. Aharoni (talk)09:46, 9 June 2015

Thank you for your contributions!

Elitre (WMF) (talk)13:31, 10 August 2014

Documentation recognition

Hello, I've looked around a bit more and found a few pages I didn't even know about. I think several documentation pages should be merged/moved/restructured, we're still missing some very basic pieces. Perhaps I was a bit inspired so I wrote down some ideas and I'm going to do some quick tidy up in the next few days I hope, while writing new docs will probably have to wait more. My notes are at the bottom of , feedback here or there appreciated. Thank you very much,

Nemo (talk)23:09, 6 September 2012

I will be away from the computer for a week or so - will look at this as soon as I can.

Lloffiwr (talk)22:58, 9 September 2012

I am still very busy at work until February at the earliest. However, I noticed that you suggested in your etherpad notes that I could proofread and test-run documentation. This is just to confirm that I am happy to do that; just ask.

Lloffiwr (talk)21:53, 6 January 2013

Thank you! Sure, I'd like your help. The notes have several todos, including many pages to update or move here on TWN. If you want to help, I could start with the big movements in the next few days and we can polish stuff together later. Some feedback on the "plan" would be very appreciated, I've never done anything because I got no comments whatsoever.

Nemo (talk)07:39, 7 January 2013

New language requests

Hello, given that you already triage all language request, what do you think about assuming responsibility for them? I see about 15 open requests, over a year of backlog; sending patches like [1] is not hard in itself, what's hard is drawing a line on what to accept and what not (though there are other aspects like CLDR and core's Names.php) and you're already able to do that. Siebrand has a lot on his plate, reviewing pre-triaged patches is easier for him and I expect Nike would also be happy to approve such patches.

Nemo (talk)09:53, 8 March 2014

I am hoping to attend Wikimania in London this year. Would you or another developer be able to provide some training on how to do these things? As it stands a lot of the above is just jargon to me, and as far as drawing a line is concerned, I do not know on what criteria to base a decision.

Lloffiwr (talk)12:11, 8 March 2014

Nike and others will be at Wikimania, however that's so far. :) IMHO you would be able to make such decisions, it's "just" about finding out whether a language is (alive and) sustainable as a locale. We just don't want to have lots of empty language codes or dead languages.

I'm sorry for the jargon... But you are already able to navigate the codebase a bit and adding a language is just two lines of configuration. If there is one language in the queue that you're quite sure we should add, you could start trying with that and see how it goes.

Nemo (talk)12:17, 8 March 2014

OK - I'll give it a go when I have enough free time and energy to learn something new.

Lloffiwr (talk)12:24, 8 March 2014

Thanks! Note, you can also use mw:Gerrit patch uploader.

Nemo (talk)09:01, 10 March 2014

Sure. I'll be there, and can do. Or try to come to Zurich for the Wikimedia European hackathon?

Siebrand17:36, 11 March 2014

Thank you for the invitation to Zurich. However, I'm not free to travel there in May.

Lloffiwr (talk)23:08, 27 March 2014

luz language southern luri in iran

hello I'm luz southern luri in iran speaker
I want to be a translator of this language please help me so thanks

Bonevarluri (talk)03:46, 1 December 2013

Metalhead64 has given you translator rights.

Lloffiwr (talk)23:36, 1 December 2013

so thanks the southern luri luz is'nt enable for long time please help us to enable this language
could you please check this page: ?
be success

Bonevarluri (talk)12:23, 5 January 2014

I myself cannot enable this language as I do not have developer skills. I don't know when a developer will look at it and I don't have any influence with developers.

Lloffiwr (talk)12:32, 5 January 2014

so thanks be success!!!!

Bonevarluri (talk)13:58, 5 January 2014

Hmoob Dawb

In response to your message sent on the 7th, yes please. I would like that arrangement

WhisperToMe (talk)17:22, 18 December 2013

I posted on Reddit asking for possible Hmong translators who are interested to come forward, but someone had also posted a list of possible translations at . Is it okay if I added these or some of them to the database as translations? I do not know the language myself but I may be able to input work from another person's dictionary if that's ok.

WhisperToMe (talk)21:27, 20 December 2013
Edited by author.
Last edit: 15:27, 29 December 2013

You can enter translations in on behalf of other translators. Before doing this however, I recommend that you put a note of your language skills, including Hmoob Dawb, on your user page using the Babel template, syntax {{#babel:mww-}}, and write a note on your user page, explaining that you are inputting translations on behalf of other translators.

I have looked at the list of possible translations and suggest that it might be wise to check "edit summary" with the translator. They need to know that this is a noun phrase, not a verb phrase, before supplying the translation - unless of course you understand enough Hmong to verify that the translation provided is of a noun phrase.

Generally speaking, I would discourage you from adding translations using a dictionary, unless your Hmong skill level is 4 or more, since a dictionary does not provide information on how to use a word in a particular grammatical context. If however, you can find a Hmong speaker with whom you can collaborate, then together you may be able to input more translations than the Hmong speaker could on his own, whatever your Hmong skill level is.

Lloffiwr (talk)16:43, 22 December 2013

I added the template Template:User_mww-0 to my page, but it is blank. Do you want me to create the template?

WhisperToMe (talk)08:43, 29 December 2013

Yes, please.

Lloffiwr (talk)15:24, 29 December 2013

southern luri luz enabling

so thanks for your helps and your tips southern luri luz needs your more help for enabling pleas help for enabling this language
this language is'nt enabled for two or three weeks we need your help

Mogoeilor (talk)12:25, 21 December 2013

I myself cannot enable this language as I do not have developer skills. It could be a few more weeks before this is completed. Please be patient.

Lloffiwr (talk)16:22, 22 December 2013

so thanks I'm so sorry

Mogoeilor (talk)04:30, 23 December 2013

No problem. Kind regards,

Lloffiwr (talk)13:01, 23 December 2013

So Thanks I'll be patient for enabling southtern luri thanks for your helps be success

Mogoeilor (talk)14:37, 23 December 2013

Request for Bugzilla

Умар (talk)11:49, 27 November 2013

With regard to the issue with "browse" and "no file selected" unfortunately the text shown is in the browser language rather the wiki language. So if a browser doesn't have Chechen as an option then the text cannot appear in Chechen. See bugzilla 56813 for decision not to fix (too time-consuming). When I have the time I will add something on the advice to developers so that this hopefully won't happen again.

With regard to the issue with the "time-ago" messages, I note that there are a few more "time-ago" messages in MediaWiki core which you could translate:

  • Seconds-ago ("$1 {{PLURAL:$1|second|seconds}} ago")
  • Weeks ("{{PLURAL:$1|$1 week|$1 weeks}}")
  • Years ("{{PLURAL:$1|$1 year|$1 years}}")

I am not certain that these messages are used in the Echo extension messages (notification system), as this is still being investigated, see this thread. Please note that there appears to be a bug associated with this as well, where if the number of days, hours, minutes, etc is 1, then the message appears in English. This bug has been reported on bug 54731. So I think we need to wait while the developers investigate that bug.

Lloffiwr (talk)22:53, 1 December 2013

Thank you. It seems everything is translated. It seems that it is necessary to wait.

Умар (talk)22:07, 13 December 2013

translating portal:lrc page to luri lrc

please help me to translate portal:lrc words in luri lrc I can't translate some words like :talk,prefrences, log out and others to luri lrc
how can translate them to luri lrc?

Mogoeilor (talk)17:20, 31 October 2013

I notice that there are still some 140 messages left to translate in the Mediawiki 500 most used messages group. I recommend that you continue to translate these as a priority, because once these are translated a MessagesLrc.php file will be created for lrc on Mediawiki and the lrc messages will be exported to MediaWiki.

To answer your question, if you want to translate a particular string, such as 'preferences', then follow the FAQ guidance to find the 'message key' (its name). You should find that the message key for the link 'preferences' at the top of the page is 'mypreferences'. Then type MediaWiki:Mypreferences/lrc in the search box at the top of most pages. Click on the 'search' icon (the magnifying glass) and you will go to the message page in lrc (which will probably be blank). Click on the 'edit' tab and you should go into the translation editor (probably the old version of the translation editor) where you can translate it.

Please let me know if this explanation is not good. I will try to improve the explanation until it is good enough to go into the documentation.

Lloffiwr (talk)13:52, 2 November 2013

so thanks mr Lloffiwr

Mogoeilor (talk)10:41, 4 November 2013

luri lrc translation

Hello Lloffiwr
I do these thigs in lrc portal?
and they should be show in lrc portal I edite lrc portal and add them
please check lrc portal and could you corret them!!!
luri lrc is commonly written in arabic an no other script
so thanks

Mogoeilor (talk)04:14, 17 September 2013

I have checked the Portal:Lrc and corrected a small mistake on listing your name as a translator.

Lloffiwr (talk)22:39, 17 September 2013

so thanks Lloffiwr
bqi or bakhtiari same as lrc is branch of luri language.luri language has 4 branchs: northern luri or lrc, bqi or bakhtiari, southwestern luri or luz and kumezari or zum, they are branchs of luri language please see
bqi bakhtiari and persin or farsi write in arabic script and both of them are understandable for lrc speakers if it possible to choose bqi we preffer choose bqi for fallback language.
and luri lrc name writes لوری in luri lrc!!!!
I have another question how can I add a لوری in top of lrc portal in section of lrc language name beside lrc same as this lrc: لوریlrc (lrc)
so thanks for your helps and your tips.

Mogoeilor (talk)04:17, 18 September 2013

so thanks for your helps
do you know anyone that know more about this case?
please help me!!!!

Mogoeilor (talk)14:17, 18 September 2013

You need to be patient until a developer becomes available to enable the language.

Lloffiwr (talk)22:42, 18 September 2013

Hello so thanks

Mogoeilor (talk)03:56, 26 September 2013

Hello mr Lloffiwr so thanks for your help luri lrc is enable to translation
be success

Mogoeilor (talk)15:25, 8 October 2013


Hi. Please tell me where to transfer such a message? we have them in Russian.

Умар (talk)15:45, 24 June 2013

You have circled a special page alias in your example. These can be translated at Special:AdvancedTranslate by selecting the module 'special page aliases' (the first on the drop-down list). Do not put any spaces in the translations. If you want to separate two words, you could put an underscore '_' between the words.

When you have translated as many as you would like to translate, please put a message on support to say that there are new Chechen special page aliases to review. It will take a little while before these can be manually checked and exported. It will also take a while after that before the new version of the software is updated on Wikimedia projects.

I hope that I have understood the question correctly.

Lloffiwr (talk)18:01, 25 June 2013

Yes, you understood correctly. I moved here a long time but they do not work in our wiki although many times it was updated.

Умар (talk)19:07, 27 June 2013

Unfortunately, saving directly in the page MediaWiki:Sp-translate-data-SpecialPageAliases/ce doesn't work. Please go to Special:AdvancedTranslate, choose the language ce and the module 'special page aliases', click on 'Fetch' then copy the translations into the boxes on the right hand side. When all is done, put a note on support.

Lloffiwr (talk)21:56, 27 June 2013

Here is a link to the Ce message file of MediaWiki on the git repository. It seems to me that the special page aliases have not yet been exported from to this message file.

Lloffiwr (talk)19:31, 30 June 2013

Thank you very much!

Умар (talk)00:08, 5 July 2013

Thank you very much. Please tell me how to translate word?

Умар (talk)16:15, 1 June 2013

I don't recognise the project "content.foto..." and so I don't know how or where the project is translated. If it's something to do with, then you will have to give me more information before I am able to help.

Lloffiwr (talk)17:19, 1 June 2013

This window that appears when you add interwiki. Wikidata.

Умар (talk)17:27, 1 June 2013

Go to the page that you are trying to translate. Then go to the address bar and type ?uselang=qqx at the end of the URL address. Press go. See example. The names of the messages should appear. You should then be able to put the message title in the search box and find it that way. If that doesn't work, please ask again.

Lloffiwr (talk)18:41, 1 June 2013

I apologize. show photos in English I need to translate this word into the Chechen language but can not find here Posts.

Умар (talk)21:13, 1 June 2013

Page: → АгӀо:.

Умар (talk)21:15, 1 June 2013

Sain siwr beth ddylen i gyfieithu!

Heia Lloffiwr!
Diolch am dy neges ar fy nhudalen sgwrs. Fel y nodaist ti, dw i yn dueddol o neidio o'r naill brosiect i'r llall (wedi bod yn gweithio tipyn ar y Wiciadur yn ddiweddar) ond fy mhrif broblem gyda Translatewiki yw nad ydw i'n siwr beth yn union dylwn i fod yn cyfieithu. Am fod fformat y tudalenau ychydig yn wahanol i wicis arferol, dw i ddim 100% o beth sydd angen gwneud neu beth yw'r blaenoriaethau o ran cyfieithu. Pe bai modd i ti roi rhai dolenni at dudalennau sydd angen eu cyfieithu ar fy nhudalen sgwrs, galla i fwrw ati i'w gwneud yn ystod yr wythnos nesaf. Dw i ddim eisiau dy lethu a gwaith, ond bydden i wir yn gweld dolenni tebyg yn hynod ddefnyddiol. Hwyl am y tro, Pwyll (talk) 09:35, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Pwyll (talk)09:35, 20 October 2011

Manylion uwchlwytho lluniau

Heia, Eleri, sut mae? Hoffwn gael dy ymateb i'r trywydd yma, os gweli di'n dda :)

Xxglennxx15:27, 15 May 2011

Helo! Dere i weld y datblygiadau i'r dudalen Sgwrs :D

Xxglennxx23:15, 23 May 2011

Plurals in Welsh

According to Plural Mediawiki disagrees with Gettext and CLDR rules about the plural forms. Which one is right and which one needs to be fixed?

Nike17:31, 3 April 2011

You should find that the PLURAL rules in CLDR have been amended since your data was gathered in September 2010. CLDR and Wikimedia should now have the same rules.

Lloffiwr18:56, 3 April 2011

That leaves Gettext. Do you know the Gettext equivalent for Welsh?

Nike21:05, 3 April 2011

Sadly, I know nothing about Gettext.

Lloffiwr12:07, 4 April 2011
cy      nplurals=4; plural=(n == 1) ? 0 : ( (n == 2) ? 1 : ( (n != 8 && n != 11) ? 2 : 3 ) );
Nike13:19, 4 April 2011

Am I right in thinking that there is a rule for 0;1;8&11;everything else?

I believe that there is a very obscure exception for mutation with 8 and 11, which is used with three words only, two of which (sterling pound and hundred) will not appear as words anyway, and is very old-fashioned. The rule for 8 and 11 used to be in CLDR as well, but the Bedwyr Language Centre, at my request, negotiated with CLDR to replace it with the most important rules, for 0;1;2;3;6;everything else.

Lloffiwr16:01, 4 April 2011

Example for liquid threads documentation

Example for liquid threads documentation

Lloffiwr16:27, 9 January 2011

Hello, Lloffiwr. Nimejaribu kuchungulia zaidi kwenye makamusi ya Kiswahili ya sasa na kuthubutu kufananisha tafsiri ya ujumbe tajwa hapo juu. Hii si hakimili, bali hatimiliki kwa kufuatia neno la "license". Sijui unaonaje?--Muddyb Blast Producer 08:49, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Muddyb Blast Producer08:49, 21 November 2009


Lloffiwr16:13, 16 October 2010

A big thank you

Hi Lloffiwr. I do not think I ever expressed my thanks to you, so here it goes. Thank you for your continued support and help on the things that need to be done for the site and the translators. This includes asking for elaboration, explanation, and many things more. Please don't stop :).

Siebrand14:13, 29 May 2010

You have said thank you before, for adding to the FAQ from time to time. I very much appreciate being thanked a second time - it is good to know that my efforts are helping. In fact, I count the opportunity that we have here at to support ALL the languages present here, rather than only the one or two languages that I work with myself, as a great privilege.

Lloffiwr16:23, 29 May 2010

Hi Lloffiwr, I do not understand this change: It is not a valid translation. could you pls check it. Thanks.

Raymond22:25, 5 March 2010

There is no word for 'none' in Kiswahili. So we want to have nothing in the message 'check:' and then the two buttons to the right of this message are translated to mean 'choose all' and 'don't choose any', instead of 'all' and 'none'. Because I thought that the software might reject a message which has nothing at all in it, I chose to write   in the message box. If the software will accept a blank message, then we can just leave it completely blank.

Lloffiwr22:37, 5 March 2010

Thanks for your explanation. It's ok for me now.

Raymond14:26, 6 March 2010