Sakizaya

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In January 2019, SIL gave Sakizaya the language code "szy", as noted at m:Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Sakizaya#January 2019 update. Shortly afterwards, I created Portal:szy here because I thought that would be helpful. However, the language was already being translated here under the code "ais". In the meantime, incubator:Wp/ais was moved to incubator:Wp/szy. I posted about this at Thread:Portal talk:Ais/Should be at Portal:Szy, but I guess "no one noticed". Yesterday, Portal:szy was tagged with {{Disabled language}}, apparently because it had no active translators (they are listed at Portal:Ais).

So, now I am "formally requesting" that everything on this wiki currently under "ais" be moved to "szy". (I'm not sure what all is involved in doing that.)

(Note that I do not know the language; I'm just interested in seeing everything get "in sync" after the designation of the "szy" code. Pinging @StevenJ81 and Liuxinyu970226: as they may have further information and/or an opinion they want to express about this change.)

dcljr (talk)00:59, 17 July 2019
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Note that some stuff under "szy" (Sakizaya) may actually belong under "ami" (Amis), as discussed at m:Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Sakizaya#January 2019 update. I guess this complicates the issue and means that things cannot simply be moved wholesale, as I suggested. But "ais" has been deprecated, so clearly something needs to be done here. I will leave it to others to determine what that is.

Note that we currently have no translators listed at Portal:szy and that language has not been enabled for translation, but at least one of the translators listed at Portal:ais appears to be among the users asking for a Sakizaya Wikipedia, so maybe they can help? (I've notified a few such users about this thread.)

Also note phab:T174601, which is discussing the same issue from a different perspective (Wikimedia wiki configuration).


Edit: As pointed out by StevenJ81 below, I actually meant to say: "Note that some stuff under 'ais'… may actually belong under 'ami'". Sorry for any confusion this may have caused.

dcljr (talk)01:39, 18 July 2019

Hi @Dcljr: I'm sure there are no stuff or content under "szy" belong under "ami". So how can we do to move all translations listed at Portal:ais to Portal:szy? We thought it would be moved just like the case with incubator:Wp/ais to incubator:Wp/szy. @Amire80: @StevenJ81: Is it possible to fix this problem? If negative, should we improve the portal one by one manually? Corainn (talk) 08:37, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Corainn (talk)08:37, 18 July 2019

Look, it just sometimes takes time to sort some of these things out. I wouldn't worry a lot. @Corainn, if you are quite sure that nothing currently within language ais is actually Amis, then we could outright move everything from ais to szy. Otherwise, the thing to do is to copy everything from ais to szy, and worry about the disposition of ais later.

@Amire80, I can assure you that (a) szy is appropriate for Sakizaya, (b) pretty much everything that had been put previously into ais is really Sakizaya (I'll find the rather robust discussion history if you like), and (c) ais for "Nataoran" has been deprecated in favor of including Nataoran within the rest of Amis (ami). So please help us move this along. Thanks.

StevenJ81 (talk)13:49, 18 July 2019

@StevenJ81: Great to hear that and thanks for the reply! Yes, there are no overlaps between amis and szy(ais), I‘m very sure. If something could be done by our side, please let me know.

Corainn (talk)22:02, 18 July 2019

@Amire80 is working on this at Phabricator now. See phab:T174601.

StevenJ81 (talk)14:03, 22 July 2019