Question!

Hi Raymond, congrats for your recent milestone here. I'm not familiar with bot work related to interface messages, but as you may imagine, recent moves here broke the visual editor user guides at mediawiki.org. In the specific case, I'll see to get that fixed, but isn't there any way to prevent the problem? I mean, replacing strings is trivial for a bot, but may get boring and cumbersome for humans. Shouldn't follow-up work happen automatically (like that bot that goes on Wikipedias to take down pics deleted on Commons, for example)? Thanks!

Elitre (WMF) (talk)15:01, 19 February 2016

Hi Erica, thanks for the congrats :-) I am not sure what the direction of your question is. Have I made an error with moving these messages? Or is it more about looking for a solution in case of another message key change which ruins a help page on mediawiki.org?

On translatewiki.net I do not use a bot for such mass changes/moves but mw:Extension:Replace Text. I think it could you too, sadly the extension is not deployed on the WMF cluster :-(

Or am I on the wrong path? I am not very familiar with the work of translation administrator on mw.org.

Raymond20:36, 19 February 2016

Hi! I don't think you made a mistake? I don't know if you were asked to make those moves or how you figured out elsewhere that they were needed, but I trust you did the right thing. Yes, I'm trying to figure out how to prevent that in the future similar moves corrupt help pages at mediawiki.org (they really look awful with all those red links!). I may try to find out why that extension isn't live there. Then again, I don't know how often moves happen that would justify having it deployed at mw.org. I'll think about this. Have a nice week,

Elitre (WMF) (talk)12:36, 22 February 2016

Hi. Reason for the move was https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/254041/ . It moved code from the VE extension to the Cite extension and the message keys were changed. In a follow up the existing translations were moved here on translatewiki.net to the new message keys.

Such moves happen a few times per week. Either a key change inside an extension or a move between two extensions. I am doing the followup moves/edits here so that our translators have less work. Hard to say how to avoid this... I guess most programmers are not aware the a key change can destroy a help page on MediaWiki.org.

ReplaceText: I think the extension needs a WMF security review first before it can be deployed at least on mw.org.

have a nice week too :-)

Raymond13:11, 22 February 2016

Oh, I'm sure they have good reasons to change the messages and only do that when really necessary. I'm wondering whether we can improve the process so that it creates less work for everyone. I'm going to throw this info into Phab ;) TTYS!

Elitre (WMF) (talk)13:18, 22 February 2016

Please add me as subscriber for this task too. Thanks.

Raymond13:19, 22 February 2016