Request for Western Pwo Karen language(pwo)

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Request for Western Pwo Karen language(pwo)

In 2021, I was the founder of the Wikipedia Pa'O languages(blk) and Wikipedia Western Pwo Karen languages(pwo). I have a lot of responsibility to continue working on the Pa'O language and Western Pwo Karen language in this Translatewiki, but I'm the only person working on this Pa'O language and Western Pwo Karen language and will be late for work, because I have a lot of work to do.

Request to change (ဖျိၩ့ / ဖျိၩ့ၡိ) name to (ပှဖျိၩ့ၡိ), the translation of this (ပှဖျိၩ့ၡိ) is as follows. ပှဖျိၩ့ၡိ=Pwo Karen ၦဖျိၩ့ၡိအလၨဆၧချဲၩ့=Western Pwo Karen language This (ပှဖျိၩ့ၡိ) is commonly used Vocabulary, this (ဖျိၩ့ / ဖျိၩ့ၡိ) is completely misspelled, thanks.

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Last edit: 14:21, 15 November 2021

Can you please clarify some things?

  1. Do you want to add support for translating into Westenr Pwo Karen (pwo)?
  2. Who is going to translate? You are already translating to a lot of languages. I really recommend that you focus on a few languages that you know well, because when you translate to a lot of languages at once, you are not completing any projects, and the quality may suffer, too. I recommend that you bring in people who know these languages as users to this site.
  3. Where do you see the current names that look incorrect to you?
  4. What is the source for the correct names?
Amir E. Aharoni (talk)08:29, 15 November 2021

I will translate slowly for Western Pwo Karen(pwo), because I am the only person currently assisting in the Western Pwo Karen language. Do I have to do nothing for Western Pwo Karen? So who will help for Western Pwo Karen? I have discussed with many people for Western Pwo Karen language assistance, they have many technical difficulties for Western Pwo Karen language assistance. most people are not interested in writing Western Pwo Karen, I are working with Naw Khu Mae to develop this Western Pwo Karen language. Naw Khu Mae cannot translate using this Translatewiki., this is because the internet in Burma blocks wiki. I am working in consultation with Naw Khu Mae, a Western Pwo Karen language expert., I came to this Translatewik to work for many languages, I have a lot of work to do, thanks.

OK, I understand. This answers my questions 1 and 2.

How about questions 3 and 4? Where do you see the current names that look incorrect to you, and what is the source for the correct names that you suggest?

Amir E. Aharoni (talk)14:22, 15 November 2021
  • My answer
  1. I will translate as much as I can for the current Pa'O language and Western Pwo Karen language, it depends on my free time to translate all the messages, I also have a lot of songwriting work for NMB48 company, so in my spare time I will continue to translate for Pa'O language and Western Pwo Karen language.
  2. The (ဖျိၩ့ / ဖျိၩ့ၡိ) name used in the Portal:pwo is misspelled, the spelling is (ပှဖျိၩ့ၡိ), not (ဖျိၩ့ / ဖျိၩ့ၡိ), would you like me to send you evidence of this name?
  3. The (ကညီစှီၤကျိ) name used in the Portal:ksw is misspelled, the spelling is (ကညီစှီၤကျိာ်). not (ကညီစှီၤကျိ), I would like Admin to take a closer look at the evidence I sent Admin yesterday.
  4. There is still a lot of work to be done. I am currently trying my best to get Pa'O language approval on the Wikipedia project. Most locals in Burma do not understand much about Wikipedia project, they only understand Facebook, it is not an easy task to invite local people in Burma to use the Wikipedia project. I spent almost three years discussing the inclusion of Pa'O language and Western Pwo Karen language in the Wikipedia project. I am still in discussions for another Rakhine language, Rawang language, Northern Thai language, it's been almost four years since our Facebook discussions, thanks.

The misspelled word "ကညီစှီၤကျိ" is probably a copy-paste problem.

NinjaStrikers «»18:50, 17 November 2021
 

Evidence for "ပှဖျိၩ့ၡိ" would be very useful. Thanks.

Amir E. Aharoni (talk)08:53, 19 November 2021
Edited by another user.
Last edit: 21:28, 19 November 2021
Western Pwo Karen name and S’gaw Karen name Screenshot on iPhone.

Evidence is as follows:

  1. Western Pwo Karen blackboard kindergarten Book= https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/24926497
  2. Western Pwo Karen dictionary website= https://www.flashcardmachine.com/eng-pwo01.html
  3. Contact Naw Khu Mae directly for further evidence

Thanks.

OK, thanks. Another question: In the language settings of the Windows 10 operating system, I see that Western Pwo is called "ဖျိၩ့" and S'gaw Karen is called "စှီၤ". Are these names incorrect?

Amir E. Aharoni (talk)20:18, 19 November 2021

"ဖျိၩ့" and "စှီၤ" stands for vocabulary, the "ဖျိၩ့" and "စှီၤ" are abbreviated vocabulary and should not be used in language names. The use of the abbreviated vocabulary by "ဖျိၩ့" and "စှီၤ" would have a detrimental effect on the literary essence of future literature. for example (Burmese people call their people မြန်မာ or ဗမာ and why do they use မြန်မာဘာသာ in the language name?) every tribe has an abbreviated vocabulary. There are also many vocabulary that cannot be used in the literature of every tribe. I mean, that example question already has the answer. The English vocabulary had a lot of abandoned vocabulary for literature, just as our Mon vocabulary had a lot of abandoned vocabulary for literature. There is an abandoned vocabulary for literature in every tribe, and only literary experts can know this, while studying at the University of the United States, I discovered the vocabulary that is not used in English literature. Therefore, the use of "ဖျိၩ့" and "စှီၤ" vocabulary in language names can have a significant impact on literary significance. The user Ninjastrikers are Burmese people, so they do not understand this language, Burmese people have no interest in their minority language and no learning, so I do not agree with the user Ninjastrikers that he understands the language, it would be ridiculous for the user Ninjastrikers to confirm the language name he gave them, please ask him (Can you talk to Karen yourself?), in this discussion on Karen name, only those who understand the Karen language should be confirmed. As evidence that I have a lot of knowledge of the Karen language, I can send you a Karen speaks video, the Karen language is my adopted mother tongue, so therefore, it is almost impossible for me to not understand this Karen language, thanks.

I do not speak Karen. But I can do is consultation with native Karen people, and the name I provided "စှီၤ" is chosen by them via Karen Translators Network.

NinjaStrikers «»13:49, 20 December 2021