Maintenance of page - adding new languages

  • zh-classical = lzh
  • fiu-vro = vro
  • en-gb is a variant
Siebrand22:48, 16 April 2011

Thank you for the update. Most of the items on the list have not had translations added in over a year. I am adding them more or less in a block together, with date of last activity by a registered translator noted in the edit summary.

Some of the items are languages no longer supported here, for example wym and num. I do not intend to add these to the page, unless told otherwise. Unsupported languages are: ady, chb, eur, num, wbl, wym, yux.

Lloffiwr10:27, 17 April 2011

Mh, I may have been adding wym and num too quickly, then. I might think about finding the last edit of a message of each language in the script, too, if there is a simple way to do so which I believe atm. Yet, that there was no edit is not necesasrily an indication the we have no translator, or cannot support a language - most notably for new projects. They may happen to attract and excite existing or new translators.

There is another issue - Extension Babel is able to support more languages than the ones, we usually translate to. It's only 6 or 12 messages for a full coverage, when the MediaWiki interface is not localized to that language. This poses yet another question of what "active" means.

Purodha Blissenbach22:00, 17 April 2011

Nothing is simple!

With regard to the last edit of a message, I ignored edits by fuzzy bot and by staff members.

There could be more supported languages where the translators haven't written their names at the bottom of the portal, or where the syntax is not the template needed by the software.

Lloffiwr22:07, 17 April 2011

Indeed ;-)

The script catches both the template syntax and a user page link, but not a plain text name. (There are too many plain text remarks there)

Only languages having no translators listed would slip through, but are listed by the script for safety. There are only en, tokipona, and tw at the moment.

Good hint to ignore specific edits!

Purodha Blissenbach22:19, 17 April 2011

You should have yua on your list of supported languages with no translators - this is a new language (oops, I mean new to translatewiki.net!).

Lloffiwr12:24, 18 April 2011

Seems neither in the list of supported languages nor having a translators subpage nor listed in this page, thus - no, it does not show up.
But it is in categories: Languages without translators, Languages, and Languages without Wikimedia projects.

Purodha Blissenbach16:51, 18 April 2011

Have just tried to find yua in the three categories Languages without translators, Languages and Languages without Wikimedia projects. For some reason these are listed under the letter 'U' instead of 'Y'!

Lloffiwr18:10, 25 April 2011

Sounds like bugzilla stuff. It could be the intl category collation.

Nike08:22, 28 April 2011

Reported on bugzilla 28736.

Lloffiwr18:32, 28 April 2011

Some more small problems with the categorisation. Portal:Tw is not included in the category Languages without translators and this category is not listed at the bottom of the page. This language is supported although it has no translations nor any translators as yet. The portal Tokipona is also not included in the category Languages without translators but it is also not supported. I don't know enough about wiki syntax to know whether the reason for this is the way the template Portal is written, or whether it is another problem with category collation. I won't report this on bugzilla unless requested to do so by a staff member.

As of today the category Languages without translators contains 64 languages without translators which are supported by translatewiki.net, and it should contain one other language as explained above.

Lloffiwr15:37, 29 April 2011
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Just read comment Thread:User talk:Jon Harald Søby/Updating the language by language family page/reply (5). That's a word. I am certain that also this comparison can be scripted. Will look into this next time, too.

Purodha Blissenbach22:05, 17 April 2011