User talk:Raymond

I'm trying to make some corrections here and here. Unfortunatelly, changes can't be saved, with some error codes like [4d436290b43a9756ea00163f] Caught exception of type TypeError and [6c1409b03efcbdcc2a3d46d2] Caught exception of type TypeError. Can you help with this?--MaGa (talk) 17:00, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

MaGa (talk)

Same thing here today.

MaGa (talk)

Please ask at Support as I am for some more days in travelling mode. Ping User:Nikerabbit.

Raymond

Hello! Could you please move MediaWiki:quiz_colorRight/en’s translations to MediaWiki:quiz_legend_correct/en and MediaWiki:quiz_colorWrong/en’s to MediaWiki:quiz_legend_incorrect/en? They are basically the same, I just used a synonym, which was reflected in the message name, too.

Tacsipacsi (talk)

 Done

Raymond

Hello, after this move all the WIkipedias have problem with the message. Instead of page title they show just "$2". See e.g. [1]. Could you fix this ASAP?

Dvorapa (talk)

I temporarily fixed this for cswiki: [1]. Which variable is correct then: $1 or $2? $1 works now, but maybe with the fix of Special:WhatLinksHere the baehavior will change?

Dvorapa (talk)

Pls see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189860 for the issue itself. Should be fixed soon on all wikis.

Raymond

Hallo Raymond,

ich wurde über ein paar Nachrichtenverschiebungen von dir benachrichtigt, unter anderem [1]. Das Ziel dieser Verschiebungen erscheint mir fehlerhaft (Unterseiten von /en). Könntest Du da netterweise noch einmal drübergucken?

Vielen Dank und liebe Grüße

Vogone (talk)

Hallo Vogone, vielen Dank für den Hinweis. Da ist mir tatsächlich ein Fehler passiert :-( Diesen habe ich soeben korrigiert.

Raymond

Hi, Could you please let me know what was problem for this topic. you wrote "wrong translation" ! what does this means? Thank you for your time in advance. regards Dejavu (talk) 21:39, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Dejavu (talk)

Hi Dejavu, the issue with all translations of this message was the inital misleading message description. On request of the Wikibase developers I have deleted all translation to make sure that all translators read the new message description and translate then on the new base.

Raymond

I see many Javanese messages with inconsistency on the spelling. I find it is tiring and boring to correct them one by one. Can I use bot here for correcting Javanese incorrect spelling? I've listed some standard terms here.

NoiX180 (talk)

Please request this on Support.

Raymond

Thanks

NoiX180 (talk)

OPEN This issue is open, waiting for action by Nemo_bis

Hi, I find Javanese spelling problem in Javanese Wikipedia Notification interface. It should be written Dhésèmber (Javanese), not Desember (Indonesian). I'm going to correct it but cannot locate where the respective message in this site. Could you please help me finding it? I also find that the other months also have wrong spelling. Thank you in advance.

Here is the screenshot

NoiX180 (talk)

Have you tried using Special:SearchTranslations?

Nemo (talk)

Yes. I've tried searching the Indonesian & Javanese messages in MediaWiki for words Desemeber and Dhésèmber respectively. All Indonesian and Javanese messages are in correct spelling, but the above mentioned interface is still wrong. By wrong I mean the spelling is in Indonesian, but the interface is meant for Javanese.

NoiX180 (talk)

CLDR?

Liuxinyu970226 (talk)

Thank you! I'll try it.

NoiX180 (talk)

Hello.Please make me translation administrator for a day for testing.Thank you

ديفيد (talk)

Hello Raymond, I have merged a patch set with message "Consistency tweak: remove . from end of description", but (at least) the following extensions are on translatewiki.net, but the desc message has a . at end.

skins:

• MediaWiki:timeless-desc/en - Timeless
• MediaWiki:erudite-desc/en - erudite
• MediaWiki:strapping-desc/en - mediawiki-strapping

extensions:

• MediaWiki:apifeatureusage-desc/en - ApiFeatureUsage
• MediaWiki:bluespiceeditnotifyconnector-desc/en - BlueSpiceEditNotifyConnector
• MediaWiki:cognate-desc/en - Cognate
• MediaWiki:cookiewarning-desc/en - CookieWarning
• MediaWiki:custompage-desc/en - CustomPage
• MediaWiki:deletepagesforgood-desc/en - DeletePagesForGood
• MediaWiki:didyouknow-desc/en - DidYouKnow
• MediaWiki:emailauth-desc/en - EmailAuth
• MediaWiki:eventbus-desc/en - EventBus
• MediaWiki:fileannotations-desc/en - FileAnnotations
• MediaWiki:formelapplet-desc/en - FormelApplet
• MediaWiki:googlelogin-desc-authmanager/en - GoogleLogin
• MediaWiki:mp3mediahandler-desc/en - MP3MediaHandler
• MediaWiki:mediawikifarm-desc/en - MediaWikiFarm
• MediaWiki:multimediaviewer-desc/en - MultimediaViewer
• MediaWiki:oojsuiajaxlogin-desc/en - OOJsUIAjaxLogin
• MediaWiki:pdf-desc/en - PdfHandler
• MediaWiki:petition-desc/en - Petition
• MediaWiki:quicksearchlookup-desc/en - QuickSearchLookup
• MediaWiki:relatedarticles-desc/en - RelatedArticles
• MediaWiki:simplesort-desc/en - SimpleSort
• MediaWiki:spark-desc/en - Spark
• MediaWiki:spreadsheet-desc/en - Spreadsheet
• MediaWiki:swiftcloudfiles-desc/en - SwiftCloudFiles
• MediaWiki:tabs-desc/en - Tabs
• MediaWiki:testlanguagenamegrammar-desc/en - TestLanguageNameGrammar
• MediaWiki:thanks-desc/en - Thanks
• MediaWiki:toptenpages-desc/en - TopTenPages
• MediaWiki:tweetanew-desc/en - TweetANew
• MediaWiki:uploadslink-desc/en - UploadsLink
• MediaWiki:usergroups-desc/en - UserGroups
• MediaWiki:wbq-desc/en - WikibaseQuality
• MediaWiki:wikipediaextracts-desc/en - WikipediaExtracts

Not fully consistency, but 36 out of 625 is a good rate (6%) ;-)

The following extensions are on translatewiki, but having an untranslatable description:

• BlueSpiceFoundation
• BlueSpiceCategoryManager
• PrivateDomains
• WebPlatformAuth

Would be nice, if you can have a look at it. Thanks.

Der Umherirrende (talk)

On my to-do-list. Will be done part by part. Skins done today.

Raymond

You found now all under https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/branch:master+topic:descdot

Thanks for merging!

Der Umherirrende (talk)

Thread:Support/Some_messages_for_Pickle_should_be_deleted.

Jeblad (talk)

In MediaWiki:Pickle-report-adapt-wrap-skip/fr # skip $1 becomes sauter $1 without diesis, why ?

Christian (talk)

Hi Christian, the # was never there, see history. It was introduced today with the change in the English message. This means the translators have to add the #. Raymond 19:33, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Raymond

ok I have misunderstood; difficult to follow the history. Thanks.

Christian (talk)

It is me, I try to reuse messages that should be similar. (Short version: Me messa up!)

Jeblad (talk)

I changed a few message keys, and updated them accordingly in the repo, both at GitHub and Gerrit. Still I see you moved a lot of them on site. Is it anything additionally I should have done? I was wondering abot this when I changed the keys. The class names had changed, and I updated the keys to reflect that.

This is about the change form MediaWiki:Pickle-report-result-* to MediaWiki:Pickle-report-adapt-*

Jeblad (talk)

I moved them to keep translatewiki clean. Nothing you can do in advance. Maybe one thing: Send a patch for updating the translatewiki.net configuration like I did in Gerrit:344089. But only if you have time. Otherwise I do it by myself.

Raymond

Can you see why is this happening? I have noticed on these translations [1] [2] [3]. Maybe there's more, I don't know.

MaGa (talk)

@MaGa: Sorry for the late answer, I was busy that last days. Today I have checked the status of the translations. By chance the issue was aleady fixed by May, 31th with Gerrit:292016. A new translation trigged the export of language hr.

Today I have done a full export of all translations for TempateDate extension with Gerrit:293898 to fix the issue of changed message keys for all languages.

Raymond

Great. Thank you very much.

MaGa (talk)

There's more messages with the same problem (e.g. math-visualeditor-mwlatexdialog-card-options/hr, math-visualeditor-mwlatexinspector-display/hr, math-visualeditor-mwlatexinspector-display-block/hr, math-visualeditor-mwlatexinspector-display-default/hr, math-visualeditor-mwlatexinspector-display-inline/hr, math-visualeditor-mwlatexinspector-id/hr, all moved on February, 22nd 2017). Can you check it please?

MaGa (talk)

I made a full export for all languages of the Math extension today: Gerrit:342174 and was astonished, that hr was not part of it. Because it was part of yesterdays regular export: Gerrit:342121. Magic :-)

Raymond

Thanks.

MaGa (talk)

Thank you for translations for the Pickle extension! =)

Jeblad (talk)

You are welcome :-)

Raymond

See pls this link Gorizon (talk) 15:55, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Gorizon (talk)

Thanks for the pointer, I will have a look shortly.

Raymond

Sehr geehrter Herr Raymond! Bei der Übersetzung in diqwiki ist ein gewisser Kumkumuk (besser bekannt als Erdemaslancan) am Werke. Er ist ständig unter unzählig verschiedenen Benutzernamen (wie Gorizon, Marmase etc.) tätig. Er ist allerdings der zazaischen Sprache nicht mächtig. Obwohl er deswegen mehrmals blockiert wurde, ruiniert er weiterhin das ganze Projekt. Damit raubt er uns seit Jahren sehr viel Zeit und Nerven. Könnten Sie uns eventuell in dieser verzwickten Angelegenheit helfen. Ich danke Ihnen im Voraus sehr dafür und verbleibe mit freundlichen Grüßen.

Mirzali (talk)

Hallo Mirzali, leider kann ich hier nicht wirklich helfen, da ich die Sprache nicht spreche. Bitte frage auf Support in Englischer Sprache um Hilfe. Danke.

Raymond

Coud you help me with this message? Siebrand delete message but it remains deployed on wikis

Milićević (talk)

Hi Milićević, I checked the file sr.json. Besides the requested message it contains 2 other translations. Should I delete them too?

Raymond

Yeah, everything shoud be kept in sr-ec.json

Milićević (talk)

File deleted with gerrit:283655 pending review.

Raymond

Ok, tnx

Milićević (talk)

Is something is wrong? Ten days has passed and message is still deployed

Milićević (talk)

CLOSED This issue is closed by Nemo_bis

Hi. As discuss here, could you try the follwing regex in Special:ReplaceText for theese messages?

~ $ cat test.txt

[[:$1]] and {{PLURAL:$2|one page|$2 pages}} added to category

~ $ sed -r 's/(\{\{PLURAL.*\}\})/[[Special:WhatLinksHere\/$1|\1]]/' test.txt

[[:$1]] and [[Special:WhatLinksHere/$1|{{PLURAL:$2|one page|$2 pages}}]] added to category

Let me know if you need help. I'm not familiar with ReplaceText and what sort of regex it accepts.

UPDATE: also here

Macofe (talk)

Sorry, I am not a regex expert. Someone else should handle this request.

Raymond

This can't be done with ReplaceText, because there is no reliable way to skip the messages where Special:WhatLinksHere already exists; moreover, some messages have multiple occurrences of PLURAL and other exceptions. For such small replacements, doing manually saves a lot of time; if you want to exercise with regexes, I recommend using pywikibot which has way better regex handling, presents you the diff and lets you confirm it, and many other features.

You can still ask about ReplaceText for bigger replacements of course.

Nemo (talk)

Hi Raymond, congrats for your recent milestone here. I'm not familiar with bot work related to interface messages, but as you may imagine, recent moves here broke the visual editor user guides at mediawiki.org. In the specific case, I'll see to get that fixed, but isn't there any way to prevent the problem? I mean, replacing strings is trivial for a bot, but may get boring and cumbersome for humans. Shouldn't follow-up work happen automatically (like that bot that goes on Wikipedias to take down pics deleted on Commons, for example)? Thanks!

Elitre (WMF) (talk)

Hi Erica, thanks for the congrats :-) I am not sure what the direction of your question is. Have I made an error with moving these messages? Or is it more about looking for a solution in case of another message key change which ruins a help page on mediawiki.org?

On translatewiki.net I do not use a bot for such mass changes/moves but mw:Extension:Replace Text. I think it could you too, sadly the extension is not deployed on the WMF cluster :-(

Or am I on the wrong path? I am not very familiar with the work of translation administrator on mw.org.

Raymond

Hi! I don't think you made a mistake? I don't know if you were asked to make those moves or how you figured out elsewhere that they were needed, but I trust you did the right thing. Yes, I'm trying to figure out how to prevent that in the future similar moves corrupt help pages at mediawiki.org (they really look awful with all those red links!). I may try to find out why that extension isn't live there. Then again, I don't know how often moves happen that would justify having it deployed at mw.org. I'll think about this. Have a nice week,

Elitre (WMF) (talk)

Hi. Reason for the move was https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/254041/ . It moved code from the VE extension to the Cite extension and the message keys were changed. In a follow up the existing translations were moved here on translatewiki.net to the new message keys.

Such moves happen a few times per week. Either a key change inside an extension or a move between two extensions. I am doing the followup moves/edits here so that our translators have less work. Hard to say how to avoid this... I guess most programmers are not aware the a key change can destroy a help page on MediaWiki.org.

ReplaceText: I think the extension needs a WMF security review first before it can be deployed at least on mw.org.

have a nice week too :-)

Raymond

Oh, I'm sure they have good reasons to change the messages and only do that when really necessary. I'm wondering whether we can improve the process so that it creates less work for everyone. I'm going to throw this info into Phab ;) TTYS!

Elitre (WMF) (talk)

Please add me as subscriber for this task too. Thanks.

Raymond

Somewhere in the past few weeks you reached 100.000 edits here at translatewiki.net. Thank you for your continuous, careful and reliable contributions here, Raimond. Our community wouldn't be the same without you.

Siebrand

Thanks Siebrand, it was and is a pleasure to work for translatewiki.net.

Raymond

Hi Raymond! I want to know its passable to merge Western balochi (bgn), Southern balochi (bcc) and Estern balochi (bgp) project s into Balochi language (bal) because all Balochi language scholar talking about a little difference between balochi language dialects (bgn, bcc, bgp), they propose me to merge all balochi dialects projects to one project ( bal) and add balochi language (bal) into MediaWiki translation

Ibrahim khashrowdi (talk)