Request for bura language

Request for bura language

I Mohammed bama i request for a new language bura to be included in the Wikipedia languages bwr as the language is not on the Wikipedia platform

Mohammedbama123 (talk)09:52, 11 June 2022

There's an initial portal for it in Portal:Bwr, however it is still marked as a disabled language. Also I did not find enough info in Wikipedia and liguists list to determine accurately which script is used to write the language, which is spoken apparently by only about 250k people in Nigeria.

Two scripts are likely possible for this North Chadic language: Latin, or Arabic. Also I did not find any basic terminology list, so most probably it has no established orthography (which will have to be invented?). Note that in that case this creation cannot be done alone, as the language is reported to have a quite specific phonology for its lateral consonnants (according to the English Wikipedia article, but it does not give its sources). So the information is very parcellar.

In Wikipedia, there's a policy about requiring sources and avoiding self-creations or inventions. I doubt that a Wikipedia can be created for now (even inside Incubator). You should discuss about it with Wikimedia Incubator, and with people in the Linguists List. And if you have resources that can be used (facsimiles of published books/articles/poems, with legal copyright and licences allowing their reuse, as well as getting in contact with more people that want to support this development (e.g. an university department in Nigeria, or in other countries working in cooperation with Nigeria).

Note also that Bura should not be confused with the major Marghi (or Margi) language, which is very close and largely overlaps in the same region (but slightly more to the south), but is spoken by roughly 20 times more people in Nigeria. However Marghi (see Portal:Mrt) still does not have any active Wikipedia (also not any Wikimedia wiki, even in Incubator), and also does not have any support for now in translatewiki/net for any other projects. However Marghi is better described and studied, with many more available sources that owuld not be too difficult to find and use as references. I just wonder why such development for Marghi has not even been started (may be this could interest you as well, and it can find also support in other surrounding countries than just Nigeria, in Southern-Western Chad, South-Eastern Niger and Northern Cameroon).

Verdy p (talk)16:00, 11 June 2022
 
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That user did not even reply about which script he would use: Latin or Arabic ? the highly related Marghi language (which is covering a large part of the same region, but extends also to other countries, has about 20 times more native speakers, and it is written in both scripts, including inside Nigeria itself (essentially in the two states of Borno and Adawara). Boura however is more local and apparently restricted to Nigeria (in the state of Borno only, but originally in a rural area with small vilalges, and it is likely that many of their sapeakers have related in more urban sectors, notably in the cities of Biu and Maiduguri, where there are much more native speakers of Marghi). If I look at the map of the areas where Marghi and Bura are spoken, it looks like they all use an official toponymy based on Marghi (or Hausa, which is also a Chadic language, but recognized officially, even if it has a simpler system of consonnants), now written in the Latin script, and they show no sign of the additional consonnants used in the Bura language (or clusters when written with the Latin-based orthography simplified by the use of the alphabet for English and Hausa).

Verdy p (talk)13:09, 12 June 2022

Latin (private communication).

Amir E. Aharoni (talk)14:47, 12 June 2022