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Latest comment: 16 years ago by Ерней in topic Татарский интерфейс

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Fall back language for tt-cyrl?

Hi Ерней. Do you have a logical suggestion for a language to be configured as fall back for Tatar in Cyrillic script? I was thinking Russian, but I thought I'd best confir with you first :) Please let me know your thoughts. Cheers! Siebrand 09:12, 23 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

I'm not so fluent in English. Tatar language is one, but it has several writing systems (see Tatar language). In TatWiki now used Latin alphabet in interface and articles. We want to have TatWiki in two alphabets Cyrillic and Latin, interface and articles. The language for tt-cyrl is Tatar.
Please rename tt-cyrl from татарча to Татарча, with Capital letter, like Tatarça in Latin. --Ерней 09:56, 23 March 2008 (UTC)Reply
OK, no problem that you are not fluent in English. That is what a fall back language is for: Everything that has not been translated, will not show in English, but in another language. What is the second language someone speaking/reading Tatar in Cyrillic is most likely to understand? That is the fall back language we should configure... Siebrand 10:12, 23 March 2008 (UTC)Reply
Russian is OK, but I'm translating from English variant. --Ерней 10:25, 23 March 2008 (UTC)Reply
Done Done Thank you for your feedback. Siebrand 10:53, 23 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

Татарский интерфейс

Добрый день!

Я татарским не владею, но всё же хотелось бы обратить ваше внимание вот на какой момент. Может быть вместо инфинитива (саклау, ташлау и т.д.) лучше использовать повелительную форму (сакла, ташла)? Просто именно так принято во всех тюркских языках. Смысл такого простроения интерфейсных сообщений в том, что пользователь как бы "отдаёт команду" компьютеру: "покажи", "сохрани", "загрузи" и т.д. Кстати, именно так сделано и в латинской версии татарского интерфейса. Alessandro 08:10, 25 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

Сәлам!
В английском и русском вариантах используется именно форма инфинитива: Save и сохранить. Официальный глоссарий компьютерных терминов рекомендует сакларга, чего я и придерживаюсь, только кнопки переводятся краткой формой – саклау. --Ерней 16:55, 25 March 2008 (UTC)Reply
Понятно. В русском и английском - это да, но вот в турецком, азербайджанском, казахском, узбекском, уйгурском (т.е. в основных литературных тюркских языках) используется как раз повелительная форма. Увидев, что нынешний латинский татарский интерфейс тоже придерживается этого стандарта я и решил обратить ваше внимание на это дело. Alessandro 21:06, 25 March 2008 (UTC)Reply
Посмотрел, в узбекском не повелительная, в нём саклаш, т.е. вариант аналогичный саклау. – Ерней 21:15, 26 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

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