Talk:Technology

The current version of the page mentions Translate toolkit, Yandex Translate, and Microsoft Translator. Are they actually still used?

CLOSED This issue is closed by Nike

Unclear if something changed lately on apertium's end; they need to be notified. See also [1] Fixed in 2015 https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?diff=6418127&oldid=6407737&rcid=10090696

Hello, the MediaWiki Translate extension includes Apertium among the external helpers for translations. Why is it not available here in translatewiki.net? (fwiw it doesn't seem to be included either in the Wikimedia multilingual wikis. Thank you.

There are no reliable backends available. If you have any, please let us know.

What do you mean by reliable? Apertium seems to be supported by the Translate extension. It is working in my wiki and as far as I remember I didn't do anything to activate it. It just came out of the box. See for instance this combination from English to Spanish. Suggestions from Apertium just show up, and they are helpful.

As I said on IRC, reliable is a service which Translate doesn't keep disabling because of HTTP timeouts or other failures. Even when it was enabled, Apertium was off most of the time on this wiki; IIRC that was the point when it was disabled. If the situation has improved, it probably costs nothing to try and enable it again: do you have any news in this regard?

The backend wasn't reliable enough for translatewiki.net. If there are too many timeouts or errors from the backend, it is automatically disabled. It was disabled too often, so we disabled it before August 2012. We'd be happy to interface with the people behind http://api.apertium.org and hear if they think the service has become more reliable, so that we can enable it again.

Please point them to this topic.

As we've not had any reply since October, I propose to just try and enable Apertium again, see how it goes. Currently we only have Microsoft working reliably, it can't get much worse.

Now trying something else: gerrit:188570.

Is there a way to import a translation memory into translatewiki? For example the Korrect 43,000 aligned Welsh and English software translations (under GPL licence).

"The collection was originally assembled in 2004": is that really the best source? Something like that is being worked on right now. The plan is to import l10n from free software projects, as they did, but in much larger scale, so their data should be redundant. Are you available to help importing those projects («KDE, GNOME, KOffice, Mandrake, Red Hat, TuxPaint, Rosegarden etc.»)?

I am sorry, I did this never before. But I could contribute a translation memory for the Ttmserver in an African language (ln) that you cannot find online.

Nobody did it before, we're doing something new. If you're willing to help, we can find ways. Offline resources are not currently in scope.

Ideally these collections are queried from an outside source. If that's available, we can simply implement a connector for it, as we do with machine translation services.

Is it really necessary to wrap like that? Using only half the available space even on a 1024x768 screen means that most of the text is outside view attention area, especially as there's no TOC and the only option is scrolling.

Feel free to update...

Hi Siebrand, I have changed the format of Translations:Technology/1/de since I believe that this message is pretty important. If you do not like it that way you may of course change it. Cheers --kgh 12:39, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Imho it is better to propose to make a change in the source page to keep all translations consistent.

That is why I was posting here. :-) However I changed it to plain text. The proposal may be seen here Cheers --kgh 13:47, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Change the source page, please if you really think improvements are needed. A staff member will review it before the new version is put up for translation.

Thanks for your reply. Now I know about the procedure. Next time I will follow it. Cheers --kgh 23:44, 26 June 2010 (UTC)