User talk:Михајло Анђелковић/1
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By the way, feel free to run the bot up to 60 edits/minute, preferably using the API, because that's quicker. The sooner it's done, the better. Cheers! Siebrand 21:34, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
How does the bot work?
Hey. How does the bot work? From your HTTP log I assume something like the following:
- get x/sr-ec contents
- convert contents to sr-el
- get x/sr-el contents
- compare converted sr-ec to sr-el content
- if different, post converted contents of sr-ec to x/sr-el
Is that correct?
I currently see that you are making two requests to get x/sr-ec and x/sr-el, like this:
"GET /w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&titles=MediaWiki:Filelist-show-list/sr-ec&rvprop=content HTTP/1.1" 200 597 "-" "Java/1.6.0_12" "GET /w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&titles=MediaWiki:Filelist-show-list/sr-el&rvprop=content HTTP/1.1" 200 504 "-" "Java/1.6.0_12" "POST /w/api.php HTTP/1.1" 200 582 "-" "Java/1.6.0_12" "POST /w/api.php HTTP/1.1" 200 549 "-" "Java/1.6.0_12"
Did you known you could get those 2 pages in one request (as far as I know you can get dozens of pages in one request - uncertain if you can also write multiple pages in one request)? Like this:
Then after the 2 GETs, I see 2 POSTs. Just curious. The first one I understand, that's the POSTing of x/sr-el. What's the second for? Siebrand 12:38, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, and get yourself true XML instead of xmlfm with "&format=xml" (or another supported format: json, jsonfm, php, phpfm, wddx, wddxfm, xml, xmlfm, yaml, yamlfm, rawfm, txt, txtfm, dbg, dbgfm). Siebrand 12:46, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
- You say you get the edit token for every edit? Can't you re-use the edit token, until it fails, and then get a new one? Siebrand 11:47, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
I say? The man about making bots for MW says this. Now, since I do not intend to watch in beans or a crystal ball to see how the software works, I naturally did not poke aroundt it. Why should I in the first place? Mihajlo talk 12:13, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Proper name for sr-el
Hi again. Now that we're improving sr-el, I think we should also take the opportunity to fix the name for sr-el that is used. Currently that is 'latinica' with I assume only means 'Latin' or 'Latin script'. I propose we give sr-ec and sr-el the following names:
- sr: Српски / Srpski (unchanged)
- sr-ec: Српски (was: ћирилица)
- sr-el: Srpski (was: latinica)
Any thoughts? Siebrand 11:43, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
P.s. Just answer here; I have your page on my watchlist, and it will keep the discussion together.
I can agree with this. You might still like to rise this question in our community. Mihajlo talk 12:16, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Actually, I would need to know the purpose of this names first. If they are meant for tabs, where an user chooses the variant of the language s/he wants to read the Project in, then it should remain as it is. If it is name of a variant of the language, such as it appears in the IW, then this change is fully reasonable. Although, I see no point in having sr-ec and sr-el IWs. Mihajlo talk 12:18, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
- It is the name of the user language in the dropdown on Special:Preferences. It can also be used in interwiki links, but sr-el/sr-ec are never interwiki links. Siebrand 12:28, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Both options seem not to be ideal. Just my thoughts:
- Writing only "Serbian" in Cyrillic and Latin could cause confusion, for some people could need time to realize what is the difference. :)
- Writing only "Cyrillic" and "Latin", of course, is missing the main information what is the language called.
What would you say for this:
- sr -- Српски / Srpski
- sr-ec -- Српски (ћирилица)
- sr-el -- Srpski (latinica)
Finally, the following has more sense than the current naming:
- sr-ec -- Српски
- sr-el -- Srpski
- The I guess we go for this? Siebrand 12:47, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
'sr' => 'Српски / Srpski', # Serbian 'sr-ec' => 'Српски (ћирилица)', # Serbian cyrillic ekavian 'sr-el' => 'Srpski (latinica)', # Serbian latin ekavian
Feel free. :) I juts hope it won't affect these two: