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What is the difference between "referring from" and "linked from" in the messages Pywikipedia:Delete-referring-pages/en and Pywikipedia:Delete-linked-pages/en?

This is the documentation in delete.py:

-links:      Delete all pages linked from a given page.
-ref:        Delete all pages referring from a given page.

Question posted at Mediawiki.

Reply by Legoktm on Mediawiki:

"link is all the links on a page. So if your page content was [[Page1]] [[Page2]], it would use those two pages. refer is basically Special:WhatLinksHere, or all the pages that link to the page provided."

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In Thirdparty-drtrigonbot-sum disc-parse-end (“<noinclude>
Summary generated from and at: %(sign)s</noinclude>”) what is %(sign)s?

4 tildes, a signature.

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docs

Check claims that %(to)s wasn't used just because the "s" is dropped in Polish. Or maybe it's true that it has to be used like that, but then docs should be clarified.

The parameter is "%(to)s", so the check is 100% correct. The documentation has been correct since it was imported in the beginning of 2013.

Hi all. This map of translator locations is the only live map I've seen on any of the Wiki family. Can you please tell me where does the map come from? Meta? I've searched for years to no avail! I would like to use it o Wikipedia cy (Welsh) to visually show the locations of all round cairns. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I know I'm posting in the wrong place, and I apologise. Diolch.

It's produced by a combination of Maps and Semantic Maps extensions.

Thanks. Where will I find the code please? And can I copy to Wiki-cy?

Hi. Just read that it's not possible on Wikipedia! What a loss! Thanks.

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image -> file

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There are new pywikipedia messages to import to twn:

• pywikibot.py (since 18-08-2012)
• spellcheck.py (since 11-06-2012)

I would like to support for importing new messages but I don't know how to proceed (except changing the corresponding yaml file but this doesn't seem to be enough). Regards.

If you update the YAML file and submit the patch set, that's already a big help.

 gerrit 27996.

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In pwb svn release 10550 a lot of empty messages where exported. Examining this bug in twn I found already empty messages here, e.g. this and all the other ones. The related empty messages also doesn't have an empty translation page, the messages aren't never created; here is a corresponding sample or right-click one of the related empty messages. Regards.

That was very unfortunate. Thanks for catching it. It should have been resolved again by now.

Should be merged using PLURAL.

Pywikipedia has no plural support.

Hopefully not yet.

Maybe ;)

PLURAL support implemented in release 9682

There is a thread asking for documentation how to use it.

The doc is in the code ;) at http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/pywikipedia/trunk/pywikipedia/pywikibot/i18n.py?view=markup&pathrev=9740. Should it be copied anywhere?

To the translating:pywikipedia project page or even in the group description.

group description ? Could you explain please. Xqt (talk) 13:43, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

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How can I set the different between one or many, if I need to remove "ה" and add "ות"?

Plural was added -- also to another message of archivebot.

I understand that Pywikipedia now has PLURAL support. Can someone who knows how the PLURAL support works please put a note of explanation on the project page. We translators need to know how to write the PLURAL code into the messages. Also, can you explain whether we can use PLURAL on any message, or whether we need to request that PLURAL is enabled for particular messages (as we do for MediaWiki).

Should support PLURAL for %(num)d.

Maybe coming soon.

Support is ready now.

PLURAL supported now. You may use sth like {{PLURAL:num|1 entry|%(num)d entries or {{PLURAL:%(num)d|1 entry|%(num)d entries. But be aware: there are only 2 variants supported yet.

Full plural support is implemented since release 9468 Xqt (talk) 15:07, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

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Please add link to date format descriptions.

Done by McDutchie.

This and other disambiguation bot messages should support PLURAL for one and many links. Translation may be more complicated then English (s) suffix.

I guess we will implement a separate plural tw-message if needed other than a $PLURAL(..) meta tag

Adding another message for plural is not going to solve the problem. That is not how plurals work in many languages.

Could you explain please why different messages, one for singular, one for plural, does not work in many languages? We have implemented sth similar for table2wiki messages: table2wiki-no-warning, table2wiki-one-warning, table2wiki-warnings. And there is a bot script (not ported to translatewiki yet) which uses messages like this:

template-msg-change = {
    'en':u'Robot: Changing template: %s',
}

template-msgs-change = {
    'en':u'Robot: Changing templates: %s',
}

This gives separate messages for each variant.

• http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/I18n#Be_aware_of_PLURAL_use_on_all_numbers
• http://www.gnu.org/s/hello/manual/gettext/Plural-forms.html

Let me know is those are not clear enough.

Ok, I see. I made a draft implementation for support in [1]. But how translators know about how many variants are used for a language?

Something's wrong with this message.

You have to be more specific.

Everything is OK now.

What are the variables in Category-listifying (“Bot: Listifying from %(fromcat)s ({{PLURAL:%(num)d|1 entry|%(num)d entries}})”)?

 Done Documented.

In Category-adding (“Bot: Adding category [[:Category:%(newcat)s|%(newcat)s]]”) do we localise "Category" within the wikilink? Is the idea behind localising Pywikipedia that the language you use for Pywikipedia matches the site language of the site you are working on, which would mean that we can translate "Category"?

I have updated the message.

It is interesting: see Category:%(newcat)s.

So? That's just what happens in MediaWiki...

The tooltip is in Dutch for me.

It's in Finnish for me. But I doubt that's what Тест8 meant.

In Redirect-remove-broken (“Redirect to a deleted or non-existent page”) and Redirect-remove-loop (“Redirect target forms a redirect loop”) do we need to remove the wikilinks to make the message applicable on all wikis?

pywikipedia isn't necessarily localised for all wikis. It's mainly there for Wikipedia.

Can someone please provide a link for the tl version of this website?

I'm wondering if Pywikipedia messages like the one linked above Redirect-remove-broken (“Redirect to a deleted or non-existent page”) should be explicitely linking to Wikipedia pages, since Pywikipedia also has many users outside of Wikimedia. AFAIK, if one wants their custom reason, there is a --reason param to use.

May be: [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Redirect|Redirect]]→Redirect?

And why [[WP:CSD#G8|G8]]→G8 does not work?

That's not the problem. Thing is that the Pywikipedia bot is also quite in use outside Wikipedia, and thus pages like Wikipedia:Redirect or Wikipedia:CSD don't exist there. Links to such pages should be avoided in the message.

These links are used in messages for a certain wikimedia project (en.wiki, etc.). If one uses pwb outside Wikimedia projects, he won't use messages for en.wiki, for example. I don't see a problem here

This "s" bit on the end exists on a number of messages to me translated, such as Interwiki-adding-modifying (“Bot: Adding %(adding)s; modifying %(modifying)s”).

Does it indicate that the category should be in plural form, or is it part of the syntax?

AFAIK, the %(variablename)s are variables by the software that are replaced then, like $1, $2, ... in MediaWiki. The "s" in the end probably means that it will be replaced with a string (d means digit). A plural function should probably be added there.