Translating talk:Etherpad lite

Hello everyone,

We have brought the localization into Sardinian close to 100%. From the documentation, we understand that the new locale will be automatically added within one week more or less. If there is anything else that we should do, please let us know.

Thank you very much in advance!

CLOSED This issue is closed by siebrand

Hi,

Are these months placed in the beginning of a sentenced (or by themselves)? If the month is placed in the middle of a sentence, then they will have small letters in Swedish.

Best,

See example at https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/wm2014-mwusergroup/timeslider#9084

In Dutch: Opgeslagen op 26 augustus 2014

Great! Thank you!

CLOSED This issue is closed by siebrand

Computers still cannot interpret law, so the adjective "illegal" is probably the wrong one to use here. Presumably something like "invalid" or "incorrect" or "corrupted" was meant.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/illegal: 3. Unacceptable to or not performable by a computer: an illegal operation.

CLOSED This issue is closed by siebrand

Replace "behaviour" by "behavior".

• Pad.modals.badChangeset.cause ("This could be due to a wrong server configuration or some other unexpected behavior. Please contact the service administrator, if you feel this is an error. Try to reconnect in order to continue editing.")
• Pad.modals.corruptPad.cause ("This may be due to a wrong server configuration or some other unexpected behavior. Please contact the service administrator.")

 Done Thanks.

CLOSED This issue is closed by Mklehr

Who is "us" that should be notified?

Mh. Tricky. Prolly the hoster, not the devs.

fixed in the latest release.

CLOSED This issue is closed by mklehr

This is an invalid implementation of Plural. English and some other languages have two forms, but many language have multiple plural forms.

Updated our i18n lib, so this should be possible now. See https://github.com/ether/etherpad-lite/pull/1841/files for an example of how it works and https://github.com/marcelklehr/html10n.js#pluralization for a thorough explanation.

That's pretty awesome. In your documentation you mention "zero | one | two | few | many | other [..] as specified in the Unicode rules". Could you link to the Unicode rules? I assume you mean these (http://www.unicode.org/cldr/charts/supplemental/language_plural_rules.html ), but I cannot be certain.

yep, these are the rules i meant. I'll add a link to the README.

CLOSED This issue is closed by Mklehr

HTML should be in capitals.

fixed in 5e3abb7

CLOSED This issue is closed by Mklehr

Hi, I don't know how I should translate "Pad". Should I translate it as "Tablet computer"?

No. As I've just added to the documentation for the message: «A pad, in the context of Etherpad, is a notepad, something to write on».

Okay, thanks for the help!

Because "pad" is essentially based on the name of the application (Etherpad), it might even be best not to translate it at all, depending on the language.

pad: Also called notepad writing pad a number of sheets of paper fastened together along one edge.

In doubt, use the full denomination etherpad instead of pad.

I think it's okay to leave "pad" untranslated (although, as McDutchie pointed out, this of course depends on the language)

CLOSED This issue is closed by Mklehr

Should have proper plural support.

duplicate of Thread:Support/About_EtherpadLite:Timeslider.unnamedauthor/en_and_EtherpadLite:Timeslider.unnamedauthors/en

CLOSED This issue is closed by Mklehr

2 french translations in the mysettings menu are too long and break the layout. The result isn't nice.

I think we can change:

• pad.settings.rtlcheck

 * "Lire le contenu de la droite vers la gauche?" 

by

 * "Contenu de droite à gauche" (the ? is not necessary)

• pad.settings.fontType

 * "Type de police" 

by

 * "Police"

It seems to make sense. :) You can change it yourself after you follow the wizard at Special:FirstSteps.

I completed the wizard (5 days ago), but still wait for the validation email.. When do you think that will happen?

Actually you were approved 5 minutes after your request, you can already translate. :)

Hello Nemo,

I (finally) made these 2 modifications. Today, I checked them, and I see that the first one came back to the previous translation (but not the second one)

I would lilke to know how things work. - Don't we receive an email when a proposition isn't accepted?

- I couldn't put anywhere an explanation of why I translated it like that. My translation is not the best, but at least, ut doesn't break the layout. Imo, it's much better this way. Is it possible to add an explanation somewhere?

- How do I know who refused my translation? (in order to discuss with him)

Thanks

Hello Quenenni, the translations are accepted automatically, there is no vetting: the history will tell you if someone has reverted your change and why. If it doesn't, and it's overwritten by FuzzyBot, it means that something weird happened on the source code's side. You can probably just reapply your change, if someone disagrees they should be able to contact you here on this wiki.

CLOSED This issue is closed by Shirayuki

Request for context.

I've added the message documentation.

CLOSED This issue is closed

github

"zh-hans" (Chinese (Simplified)) and "zh-hant" (Chinese (Traditional)) translations don't work on a Etherpad Lite server.

This is because Etherpad Lite recognizes these languages as "zh" (Chinese) and because "zh.json" doesn't exist.

Best report this problem with the Etherpad Lite guys.

Thanks. I've started a new issue on GitHub[1]. But it's hard to explain.

CLOSED This issue is closed by Mklehr

Open as in adjective or verb?

As an adjective. (en should be refined, prolly)

fixed

CLOSED This issue is closed by Mklehr

Looks like this may be a success message for both import as well as export. Advising to split.

No, it's not. Afaik it's just used for imports...

CLOSED This issue is closed by Siebrand

What's the context of "monospace?"

A font.

CLOSED This issue is closed by Mklehr

The following strings aren't marked for translation, hence they don't exist in a translation template:

1. Please enter a name (This occurs when one tries to create a pad without a name)
2. Heading, Normal, Heading 1 ... Heading 6 (These are shown in a dropdown menu on a pad view)
3. Enter your name (Shown in "user view" when user hasn't set name)
4. 1 unnamed author (Shown in timeslider when user hasn't set name)
5. Help - What does each button do? (This and button tooltips in orange bubbles aren't translatable)
6. Video Conferencing (Button tooltip not translatable)
7. Clear authorship colors on entire document? (In a confirmation window after pressing "Remove author colours" button)
8. Import now (Button text in Import/Export view)
9. This revision is now marked as a saved revision (Shown when user presses "Star" button)
10. Page View (Shown in Settings view)
11. Loading... (Shown when a pad is loading)
12. Import is not available. To enable import please install abiword (Shown in Import/Export view if admin hasn't installed the needed components)

I guess the code should be reviewed completely for hard coded strings, or is that how you did this?

According to JohnMcLear it's a problem with plugins, which don't support l10n.

Then I guess it's about time they start doing that... Have a look at jQuery.i18n?

I only did a quick etherpad-lite installation and reported untranslated strings visible to user. However, looking at https://github.com/ether/etherpad-lite/blob/master/src/templates/pad.html shows there are some hardcoded error/warning strings that most probably should have translations. Also the admin interface itself is untranslatable for most parts. And no, I did not do a through code review. Most of the strings I reported seem to be located in separate JS files, e.g.

1. https://github.com/ether/etherpad-lite/blob/master/src/static/js/pad_userlist.js#L718
2. https://github.com/ether/etherpad-lite/blob/master/src/static/js/pad_editbar.js#L172
3. https://github.com/ether/etherpad-lite/blob/master/src/static/js/pad_savedrevs.js#L21
4. https://github.com/ether/etherpad-lite/blob/master/src/static/js/pad_impexp.js#L109
5. https://github.com/ether/etherpad-lite/blob/master/src/static/js/pad_impexp.js#L229

Looks like jQuery.i18n might be a very good match for Etherpad lite. Hope you can get the Etherpad lite devs to use it.

Opened a corresponding issue on github: https://github.com/ether/etherpad-lite/issues/1263

I'm working on a refined l10n lib atm, though, so i guess this will have to wait a bit...

Thanks for reporting nonetheless!

Please consider *not* developing your own i18n lib if you can find anything remotely maintained. It is more complex than it looks...

We use:

• https://github.com/marcelklehr/trl8.js --> forked from https://github.com/fabi1cazenave/webL10n
• https://npmjs.org/package/languages4translatewiki

I think that they are good tools for Etherpad

Some of the items in your list are indeed parts of plugins, so we can't do anything about that at the moment. "Loading..." is inevitable to be hardcoded in the template, though, because we have to display something even if no javascript is loaded yet (once the l10n lib is loaded this is replaced with the translated message!)

I think that all core strings to translate are marked now: https://github.com/ether/etherpad-lite/pull/1274

I think we've fixed everything now. Thanks for your help!

CLOSED This issue is closed by Mklehr

This label has a colon. Shouldn't one further up have a colon, too?

It has now.

CLOSED This issue is closed by Mklehr

Please provide context.

how can I provide context?

By adding "translations" in message documentation.

CLOSED This issue is closed by Mklehr

Sounds stupid indeed. Should be ignored until fixed.

fixed

CLOSED This issue is closed by Mklehr

UnOrdered => Unordered

fixed