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Same question as the user below, is it possible to rename to Stjn? Thanks in advance.

stjn^[ru]

The following issue is open, waiting for action.

Is it possible to change my Username Patio to the one I use everywhere else: KlaasZ4usV ? Thanks in advance!

 Klaas `Z4␟` V: 

The following issue is open, waiting for action.

Sending a request to add the Kaqchikel language. It currently is in the incubator:

https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/cak/Nab%27ey_wuj

and a part of activities leading up to an edit-a-thon will be to begin the translation process:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/Kaqchikel_Wikiwuj,_editathon_and_leadership/capacity_building

There are native Kaqchikel speakers available and willing to participate in this process.

Thank you,

Eddie

RisingVoices (talk)

We need the following information:

• A language code from ISO 639-3 or the Ethnologue website (for example 'de')
• The language name in English and in its own language (for example 'German – Deutsch (de)')
• Is the language RTL or LTR (written from right to left or left to right)
• If the language is commonly written in more than one script, please say in which script the language should be enabled. Other variants can be enabled as and when translators for those variants volunteer.
• Should the language fall back to another language other than English? If so which?

Nike (talk)

Thanks for the quick reply! Here is the information requested:

• A language code from ISO 639-3 or the Ethnologue website (for example 'de’) - CAK

• The language name in English and in its own language (for example 'German – Deutsch (de)’) - Kaqchikel (in English & auto-denominated)

• Is the language RTL or LTR (written from right to left or left to right) - Left to Right

• If the language is commonly written in more than one script, please say in which script the language should be enabled.

• Other variants can be enabled as and when translators for those variants volunteer. - Latin Script

• Should the language fall back to another language other than English? If so which? Spanish

RisingVoices (talk)

The following issue is open, waiting for action.

Hello, could any of the administrators delete the following pages:

• MediaWiki:Ext-quicksurveys-performance-internal-survey-description/he
• Thanks-thanked-notice-rev/he

The first is no longer marked for translation, and the latter was created by mistake. Thanks.

Guycn2 · ☎

Done.Greetings

ديفيد (talk)

Thanks a lot.

Guycn2 · ☎

The following issue is open, waiting for action.

Before I had searching some word like अविशिष्टपृष्ठम्, which may use in some translation, so I had get result properly. It had shown me where is the usage of the word. But now It has completely changed. Now I can not get any result. Please help to find word अविशिष्टपृष्ठम्/sa/ Thank you.

NehalDaveND (talk)

Are you sure that should be search results for that word?

Nike (talk)

The following issue is open, waiting for action by siebrand (chase).

under reconsideration

I'm trying to start translating text for a Tunica-language wikipedia. Here is the required info about the language:

• ISO 639-3 language code: tun
• Language name: Tunica – Yoroni (tun)
• Left-to-right language

Thanks.

Plandu (talk)

Is more information needed? What can I do to make this happen?

Plandu (talk)

I checked Wikipedia and ethnologue and they both say it's a basically dead language with no fluent speakers. This makes me doubt how are you able to translate MediaWiki which contains many technical terms to this language. Is there a standard orthography? We are having troubles with other languages here where there is no standard orthography and then translators are fighting with each other about correct spelling.

Nike (talk)

I completely understand your skepticism. The language is being revitalized, much like Manx or Cornish have been. There is a standard orthography, a textbook, children's books, and other materials. Information can be found at the University of Hawaii's Catalogue of Endangered Languages (elcat). The revitalization project, of which the Tunica-Biloxi tribe itself is the main driver, continues to gain momentum, and we have several editors up to the task, with over 50 years of combined experience with the language. We're eager to get started on translating.

Thanks so much for your help.

Plandu (talk)

What is the status on this request?

Plandu (talk)

Bumping again. We're busy writing articles in the language on the Tunica incubator wiki. It would be nice to translate the Wikipedia messages that will need to go with it at the same time.

Plandu (talk)

Rejected. Heritage language of the Tunica-Biloxi Tribe of Marksville, Avoyelles Parish, Louisiana. There is no benefit in creating this as a UI language. Please focus your efforts on digitizing the language corpus, etc.

Siebrand

There is a great benefit to creating this as a UI language for the students who are learning it. I appreciate the suggestion to focus on "digitizing the corpus, etc." but that has already been done. The comment seems to imply that the language has no current speakers. The page from which the heritage language quote is pulled clearly shows that this is not the case.

Why has Cornish, which also has a small number of L2 speakers and no L1 speakers, been granted not only translatewiki permission but also its own wikipedia page, while Tunica can't even get past this step? If there is a lower limit to the number of L2 speakers that must exist in order for a wikipedia UI to be beneficial, or something else that differentiates Tunica from Cornish, please advise.

I realize that the service offered here isn't vital to the continued revitalization of the Tunica language (nor was it vital to Cornish), but it would be helpful, and it's disappointing that a single sentence in contradiction of everything that's been updated more recently can scuttle approval. If you require more proof that people speak and use this language, I'd be more than happy to provide it. There are people who want to learn in this language, as there are people who want to learn in Cornish. There is no one who speaks Cornish who doesn't also speak English, but this does not mean it wasn't beneficial to create a Cornish Wikipedia. In the same vein, it is indeed beneficial to allow for the creation of a Tunica Wikipedia.

I hope you reconsider your rejection. Additionally, I hope that, as the wheels of bureaucracy gradually turn and more updates are made on the sites of various gatekeepers of language status, it will hopefully become harder for people to find outdated information on the Tunica language that they can use to inappropriately justify rejection of a spoken language for translation.

Plandu (talk)

@Plandu: There may be a good news for you, that the SIL change request 2017-015 is adopted. That request is to change the type from Extinct to Living.

@Nike and Siebrand: Should we reconsider this thread because of this request?

Liuxinyu970226 (talk)

@Liuxinyu970226, Nike, and Siebrand: I would support revisiting this decision. I would be much obliged if the admins would consider enabling Tunica for translation.

Plandu (talk)

Niklas asked for my opinion. I am not opposed to adding it. Does it add any significant maintenance overhead?

The Language committee is usually flexible when it comes to translatewiki, because it's not really part of Wikimedia. It's stricter about eligibility and approval of going out the Incubator, so I'm not saying anything about that here, as I'm really not sure what the outcome will be. But since we're mentioning the Incubator here, and since User:StevenJ81 has been so amazingly helpful lately with cleaning up old requests at Meta: Steven, can you please check whether it can be eligible?

Also, just out of curiosity: User:Plandu, can I take a look at some digitized texts? Can they be made available for Wikisource? (It's mostly a matter of license.)

Amir E. Aharoni (talk)

This language can be created. I trust SIL to know what it is doing.

Nike (talk)

@Amire80: Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I'd be happy to put some digitized texts up on Wikisource once I make sure there's no licensing issues. Hopefully it won't be too long for me to verify that. I'll let you know when they're up.

Plandu (talk)

The following issue is open, waiting for action.

Never mind.

Anyone knows what a "templated parameter" is and, more to the point, what would be an adequate translation? "Parameter of a template"? "Parameter in a template"? "Parameter that takes a template"? What?

Hamilton Abreu (talk)

Never mind.

Hamilton Abreu (talk)

The following issue is open, waiting for action.

See title.

Srdjan m (talk)

Hi Srdjan m, these requests should now be created in Phabricator, not here. For an example, check T150420.

Hamilton Abreu (talk)

All right. I created a task for this.

Srdjan m (talk)

The following issue is open, waiting for action.

Hello! I'm helping a project in a community who can help to translate some interfaces but if they have more languages than English in the right panel, as most of them are not english-speakers and the instructors are more able to speak Basque and Spanish. Would it be possible to add more translations in the right panel to help the translators? -Theklan (talk) 19:02, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Theklan (talk)

If you are a translator you can choose to display messages on the edit screen in other languages. These assistant languages are set in the 'Edit' tab of 'My preferences'.

Nike (talk)

The following issue is open, waiting for action.

Tell me please where can I translate this?

Умар (talk)

This means AND

Умар (talk)

The screenshot is not opening for me.

Nike (talk)

I updated the link.

Умар (talk)

Have you tried to find this in local templates or modules?

Liuxinyu970226 (talk)

I do not even know where to look. Searched in local messages.

Умар (talk)

Thanks for the help. I have corrected.

Умар (talk)

The following issue is open, waiting for action.

What can we do to avoid requests for this language?

\m/etalhead ✉

I think we should recruit a Russian speaker to vet all Russian translators (and follow their activities after approval in case one gets through). I don't want to disable sign-ups for that language completely. How bad is the situation right now?

Nike (talk)

Just now the situation is quiet, but this can mean nothing.

\m/etalhead ✉

The following issue is open, waiting for action.

Hi. What's the current method for translating file options (frameless,border etc.)? Do I need to open a ticket, like for namespaces?

Strainu (talk)

I can also directly open a review in gerrit, if easier.

Strainu (talk)

Hello.In visualeditor, MediaWiki:Visualeditor-dialog-media-type-frameless/ro and MediaWiki:Visualeditor-dialog-media-type-border/ro has already been translated.Greetings

ديفيد (talk)

Yes, but these are only the labels for the form. I'm interested in the wikitext that ends up in the page source.

Strainu (talk)

Please provide a picture from Commons for clarification

ديفيد (talk)

Picture of what,wikitext? [[File:Example.pg|left|thumb]] Parameters like "thumb" and "left" can be translated, but I am not sure how.

Strainu (talk)

The following issue is closed by Nike (chase).

Special:MessageGroupStats works bit strangely. When used by format "Special:MessageGroupStats/id" it shows the right statistics but Message Group indicator shows "Translatewiki.net" (group wiki-betawiki). Consequently, after (de)marking some option for (not) showing statistics for fully / none translated languages, it shows statistics for Translatewiki.net, instead of the expected group. The URL than is "Special:MessageGroupStats/id?group=wiki-betawiki&x=D".

It created problem in Template:Project subtitle but I am now solving it. I suppose that the previously used format worked before and than some software change occured which introduced this bug.

KuboF (talk)

The solution for Template:Project subtitle: Special:Diff/8075996.

KuboF (talk)

I suppose it is a regression from the OOJS refactoring. I'll have a look.

Nike (talk)

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/431569/

Nike (talk)

The following issue is closed by Amire80 (chase).

Please activate Mandailing language, ISO 639–3 code btm. Thank you.

StevenJ81 (talk)

Thanks. It's on the way: https://github.com/wikimedia/language-data/pull/17

Amir E. Aharoni (talk)

Still somethings need confirmed:

1. What's the autonym of it?
2. Should it have any languages as fallback, or just translate from English?

Liuxinyu970226 (talk)

I asked about fallback at https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wp/btm/Alaman_Utamo#Fallback_language .

Amir E. Aharoni (talk)

Hello, would you like to help to active and create a localisation of Rejang language (ISO 639-3 rej). I am a native speaker and active at Wikipedia Indonesia and Incubator of Rejang Wikipedia. Thank you.

Anok kutai jang (talk)

I'll take a look at it very soon. Thanks.

Amir E. Aharoni (talk)

Mandailing is now enabled!

Start here:

• Translating:MediaWiki
• https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:Translate?filter=&action=translate&language=he&group=core-0-mostused
• https://blog.wikimedia.org/2017/10/26/translating-mediawiki/

Amir E. Aharoni (talk)

The following issue is open, waiting for action.

Hello. Why does this non-existing message appear in the Extensions used by Wikimedia message group?

Guycn2 · ☎

I tried to delete it and I could not because of the appearance of "Database error"

ديفيد (talk)

For now, I've created the Hebrew translation for this message without any content, to make it disappear from the list of untranslated messages used by Wikimedia. I hope this will not cause issues...

Guycn2 · ☎

The following issue is open, waiting for action by Amire80 (chase).

Hello, good afternoon. Please create a localisation for Rejang Language (ISO 639-3 rej). I am a native speaker of Rejang Language. I am active in Wikipedia Indonesia. Thank you.

Anok kutai jang (talk)

• ISO 639-3 Code: 'rej'
• 'Rejang language – Baso Jang'
• Written from left to right

Anok kutai jang (talk)

FWIW, this language is written in Latin script (you wanna Arabic or Javanese scripts???); but now I'd love to know if you want fallback languages or not, and if yes, fallback to which languages?

Liuxinyu970226 (talk)

Hello, sorry for a quite late reply. Historically our language was written in aksara RIkung, a type of abugida arose in Southern Part of Sumatera. Then, after teh colonisation and Indonesia gained its independence, native spekaers slowly favoured Latin over the aksara Rikung to write down the language. Pardon me, I do not really understand with fallback.

Anok kutai jang (talk)

Well, simply if you don't oppose to show both Rejang and Indonesian, you can request to set up Indonesian (id) as fallback, if you oppose that, we'll keep English as default fallback.

Liuxinyu970226 (talk)

Maybe, it is okay to keep the English as the default fallback. Thank you

Anok kutai jang (talk)

The following issue is closed.

don't create duplicate thread to "raise" something, please

Hello, good night from Indonesia. Please help me to create a localisation for Rejang Language (ISO 639-3 rej). I am a native speaker of the Language and need the localisation for our project in wikipedia incubator of Rejang language. Thank you so much.

Anok kutai jang (talk)

The following issue is closed by Nemo_bis (chase).

Hello, could you please give permission to User:Anok_kutai_jang to edit the page?

Si Gam Acèh (talk)

Which page? Do you mean translation rights?

Nemo (talk)

Nevermind, I found their request in Special:ManageTranslatorSandbox and approved it.

Nemo (talk)

Hello, please grant me translator right for Rejang language (ISO 639-3: rej) and Ambon Malay (ISO 639-3: abs). Thanks.

Anok kutai jang (talk)

You already have access to all supported languages. For more languages, see Translatewiki.net languages.

Nemo (talk)

The following issue is open, waiting for action.

There are some translations of words are different in zh-HK (Hong Kong dialect) and zh-TW (Taiwan dialect). But these two languages fallback to zh-hant. What is the best way to solve this problem?

A2093064 (talk)

Actually, we can translate messages to zh-hk, but as far as I've asked in phab:T170836, there's collaboration problems that no repositories can update their zh-hk messages, need more suggestions on this problem.

Liuxinyu970226 (talk)

The following issue is open, waiting for action.

Hello.Please make these important templates translatable:

1. Template:Identical
2. Template:Related
3. Category:Message Documentation Templates (46 templates)

Thank you

ديفيد (talk)